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Old 09-07-2005, 03:33 PM   #4096
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Because knowing someone in a very limited and anonymous context on the internet gives you deep insight?
Because either 75% of what you post here is insincere, or you are a very warped person (actually, those aren't mutually exclusive, I suppose).

As for validation, whatever.

There are dozens of people who read this board who both didn't feel the need to give through the board or in such a way as to benefit the board, but only you and Hank feel the need to be defensive about it. Why is that, do you think?*

*Genuinely curious. I don't mean to imply that you you and Hank are chumps. I mean, you are chumps**, but I didn't mean to imply it from the question.

**Not because of your charitible giving, just in general.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:47 PM   #4097
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Because either 75% of what you post here is insincere, or you are a very warped person (actually, those aren't mutually exclusive, I suppose).

As for validation, whatever.

There are dozens of people who read this board who both didn't feel the need to give through the board or in such a way as to benefit the board, but only you and Hank feel the need to be defensive about it. Why is that, do you think?*

*Genuinely curious. I don't mean to imply that you you and Hank are chumps. I mean, you are chumps**, but I didn't mean to imply it from the question.

**Not because of your charitible giving, just in general.
I'm not defensive, I am offended. Do you not think some people here might not be able to donate, and be somewhat troubled by your posts?

As to my own giving habits, I will leave it to any individual posters who may care to decide whether I likely am charitable. Think about what you know.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:53 PM   #4098
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The discussion of NO has devolved into something like the Peter Thottam tirades about Palestine...
Exactly why I'm sitting this fight out.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:53 PM   #4099
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It's buried in today's article about the new authorization for $50B or so for Katrina relief, but I was especially startled to see this quote:
  • At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."

    She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Michael Brown.

    "He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

    "'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"

    "Oblivious, in denial, dangerous," she added.

I'm at the point where I'm hoping this really isn't true, because the thought of Bush honestly being so cocooned that he doesn't think that FEMA has done something wrong is truly depressing.

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Old 09-07-2005, 03:57 PM   #4100
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I'm not defensive, I am offended. Do you not think some people here might not be able to donate, and be somewhat troubled by your posts?

As to my own giving habits, I will leave it to the individual posters to guess whether I likely am charitable. Think about what you know.
If I think about what I know, you aren't going to like the answer.

I am sorry you are offended. Those who cannot donate should not be offended. When 9/11 occurred, I was in a financial postion that precluded me from donating anything above a token amount.

OTOH, had I seen at the time (and I did) people encouraging others to donate to some cause (or expressing dismay that others have not donated), I would have shrugged my shoulders, thought to myself "I've done what I can" and let it go.

And I'm still pretty.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:06 PM   #4101
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If I think about what I know, you aren't going to like the answer.

I am sorry you are offended. Those who cannot donate should not be offended. When 9/11 occurred, I was in a financial postion that precluded me from donating anything above a token amount.

OTOH, had I seen at the time (and I did) people encouraging others to donate to some cause (or expressing dismay that others have not donated), I would have shrugged my shoulders, thought to myself "I've done what I can" and let it go.

And I'm still pretty.
Your prods have come off as a bit sanctimonious and self-promoting. IMO. I have no problem with the pledge to match (if that is what is was; I'm not fact-checking your offers here but this is my recollection), which is a great move and should be commended, but the Get Off Your Ass And Donate Already and the Anyone Who Hasn't Donated Is A Chump messages don't hit your best note. People are aware of the offer. Why not just leave it at that?
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:08 PM   #4102
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If I think about what I know, you aren't going to like the answer.
I apologize. I was presuming a minimum ability to reason with the suggestion, and of course in doing so I could have overly challenged some.


Ironic that my faux pas was included in a post suggestion that you might have offended the less well off. Mea culpa.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:09 PM   #4103
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Your prods have come off as a bit sanctimonious and self-promoting. IMO. I have no problem with the pledge to match (if that is what is was; I'm not fact-checking your offers here but this is my recollection), which is a great move and should be commended, but the Get Off Your Ass And Donate Already and the Anyone Who Hasn't Donated Is A Chump messages don't hit your best note. People are aware of the offer. Why not just leave it at that?
Are you posting this to defend Penske, or me?
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:11 PM   #4104
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Are you posting this to defend Penske, or me?
Like Ty, neither of you need my defense, I'm sure.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:12 PM   #4105
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Like Ty, neither of you need my defense, I'm sure.
Maybe, but Penske could do with a PR voice, and maybe a translator.
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Maybe, but Penske could do with a PR voice, and maybe a translator.
I stand here by Penske, as still and unmovable as Stonewall Jackson.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:14 PM   #4107
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It's buried in today's article about the new authorization for $50B or so for Katrina relief, but I was especially startled to see this quote:
  • At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."

    She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Michael Brown.

    "He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

    "'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"

    "Oblivious, in denial, dangerous," she added.

I'm at the point where I'm hoping this really isn't true, because the thought of Bush honestly being so cocooned that he doesn't think that FEMA has done something wrong is truly depressing.

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I'm having a hard time believing that Bush would bother responding to Nancy Pelosi.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:17 PM   #4108
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Touche, indeed. Not banff, I am honourary citisen of Penticton.
Wait a minute. Did you go to the peach festival this year? That's good fun.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:19 PM   #4109
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I'm having a hard time believing that Bush would bother responding to Nancy Pelosi.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

Poll numbers out! Hank right/libs wrong. Pelosi and her ilk will be losing seats if they don't shut up.
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It's buried in today's article about the new authorization for $50B or so for Katrina relief, but I was especially startled to see this quote:
  • At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."

    She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Michael Brown.

    "He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

    "'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"

    "Oblivious, in denial, dangerous," she added.

I'm at the point where I'm hoping this really isn't true, because the thought of Bush honestly being so cocooned that he doesn't think that FEMA has done something wrong is truly depressing.

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