Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The families of any soldiers harmed by these 7 should sue the ACLU for fighting for their release.

On the same day we sue the ACLU for fighting for your right to post.

S_A_M

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Were you hung over when your torts professor talked about causation?

Were you drugged when your history professor talked about "war"?

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by bilmore
Were you drugged when your history professor talked about "war"?

Last word freak.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Last word freak.

Right word freak, more likely.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

More exciting news from the burgeoning field of voter registration:

• Marijuana 'petition' actually voter registration form
  
  By: MARGARET GIBBONS , Times Herald Staff 10/19/2004
  
  COURTHOUSE - Montgomery County Community College (MCCC) students recently received a real-life lesson: Do not sign something unless you thoroughly read it.
  Students, who last month signed a petition that was being circulated on the Blue Bell campus to legalize marijuana for primarily medicinal purposes, now are finding out that they are registered Republicans.
  "This is just very disheartening," said Plymouth resident Jennifer Fugo, a 24-year-old continuing education student who describes herself as a "victim of voter registration manipulation."
  "Everyone is encouraging young people to register and vote and then they experience something like this," Fugo said Monday. "This is just outrageous."
  Fugo, who had been living in New York, this summer returned to the area and, in August, had her voter registration transferred to Plymouth. Her new registration card at that time correctly listed her party affiliation as a Democrat.
  Imagine her surprise last week, said Fugo, when she received a new registration card from the county that listed her as a registered Republican.
  "It is disgraceful and detestable, not to mention illegal, to alter anyone's voter registration without that person's consent," Fugo said. "The thought that there is a special interest group in my area that is knowingly defrauding citizens voting records is outrageous, no matter what party or interest group is perpetrating this act."
  When she contacted the county's voter registration office, she was advised that she was not the only MCCC student who was a victim of registration fraud.
  County voter services Director Joseph R. Passarella said that his office has received "less than a handful" of complaints from MCCC students complaining that they have been registered as Republicans and all were tied into the same petition drive.
  His office has not been able to pin down the group that submitted these registrations.
  Passarella speculated that there are various organizations this year who are paying people to register new voters in specific parties and that this was the work of someone trying to cash in on the registrations.
  The good news is that it does not make any difference in what party a person is registered in the upcoming election because a registered voter can vote for any candidate on the ticket regardless of party, Passarella said.
  However, if a person wants to vote in next spring's Democratic or Republican primary elections and is not registered in the party of his or her choice, he or she can change the registration after the Nov. 2 general election, he said.
  "I think these kids learned the hard way to make sure they read things before signing them and not sign anything that is questionable," Passarella said.
  Fugo said she had questioned the signing of the registration form, telling the petition circulator that she already was registered to vote. He told her they were just using the form for information purposes and that she could not sign the petition unless she also signed the form.
  Susan Adams, MCCC's director of marketing and communications, Monday said she was first alerted to the situation last Friday after the school had received calls from a student and the parent of another student.
  Adams said that all persons circulating petitions on the college's campus must first sign in with the school.
  No one signed in nor received an OK to circulate the marijuana petition, Adams said.
  MCCC in early September did host a voter registration drive where the Republican, Democratic and Green Parties participated, Adams said.
  "That was very successful," said Adams. "There is a lot of interest in this election."
  Montgomery County Republican Committee Executive Director Adam Gattuso said the county GOP did not condone such registration fraud and did not learn about it until late last week.
  "That is despicable and not something we would do nor need to do," said Gattuso.
  Margaret Gibbons can be reached at mgibbons@timesherald.com or 610-272-2501 ext. 216.

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Note to the GOP: I'm betting crack is a better draw.

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
On the same day we sue the ACLU for fighting for your right to post.

S_A_M

Um, I was there one day when Norm Seigel readily admitted that the ACLU will willingly refrain from protecting (what it deems) right-wing speech.

So, fuck you, I think not.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Were you drugged when your history professor talked about "war"?

Tell it to the Supreme Court.

Or, would you be comfortable if Bill Clinton and Janet Reno were exercising unfettered discretion to decide who they could keep in Guantanamo?

S_A_M has my proxy.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Um, I was there one day when Norm Seigel readily admitted that the ACLU will willingly refrain from protecting (what it deems) right-wing speech.

So, fuck you, I think not.

They are there to protect ALL liberal speech, orientation notwithstanding.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Were you hung over when your torts professor talked about causation?

Were you cutting class the day your crim pro professor taught about the crime of "aiding and abetting"?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Tell it to the Supreme Court.

Or, would you be comfortable if Bill Clinton and Janet Reno were exercising unfettered discretion to decide who they could keep in Guantanamo?

Do they have accomodations for small cuban kids?

(ETA: On reflection, that was a cheap shot I shouldn't have made. I agreed that sending him back was correct. It was just too easy.)

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Or, would you be comfortable if Bill Clinton and Janet Reno were exercising unfettered discretion to decide who they could keep in Guantanamo?

A kindler, gentler Administration (i.e., no panties on head)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Do they have accomodations for small cuban kids?

(ETA: On reflection, that was a cheap shot I shouldn't have made. I agreed that sending him back was correct. It was just too easy.)

I thought it was funny. I also thought Slave's aiding-and-abetting idea is funny, too, but in a different way.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I thought it was funny. I also thought Slave's aiding-and-abetting idea is funny, too, but in a different way.

Smug bastard.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore


A kindler, gentler Administration (i.e., no panties on head)

You know, people like the ACLU have argued for years that immigrants and other non-citizens (read: furners) should be accorded constitutional rights, and conservatives have said, no. If you think Elian got hosed, maybe you should stop kvetching about the ACLU, because they're out there trying to create precedents to be used by the Elians of the world.

OTOH, if you only care about immigrants from Republican constituencies in swing states, carry on.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You know, people like the ACLU have argued for years that immigrants and other non-citizens (read: furners) should be accorded constitutional rights, and conservatives have said, no. If you think Elian got hosed, maybe you should stop kvetching about the ACLU, because they're out there trying to create precedents to be used by the Elians of the world.

I'm guessing Slave didn't react to the technical holding that some kid should be afforded some certain level of protection, but to the idea that some small kid, having braved the seas and escaped the killing fields of Fidel, should get to stay in this country, because this is the country that you wish all such kids could have the opportunity to come to.