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05-12-2004, 11:47 AM
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no penske for me!
Join Date: Dec 2003
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My breast implants
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Originally posted by Not Me
I don't really want to discuss it. It is obvious that you are just pissed off to learn that you have been eating dyed-green horseradish masquerading as wasabi for all these years and are shooting the messenger. Not that this is any kind of metaphor for your marriage or anything.
Geesh. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I liked you better when you were powerless AntiquiTy/IniquiTy/InsaniTy, etc, etc, and so forth.
Fuck you Mr. Moderator.
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Its not Ty's fault so much as the utter neglect and derogation of duty of his fellow moderator Putzke. He ruined Infirm and now this board too. Assclam.
eta: do you a link to an actual picture of your actual boobies? If so, please post. For Hank's sake.
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05-12-2004, 12:45 PM
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#4142
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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05-12-2004, 01:10 PM
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#4143
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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GOP Blocks Patriot Act
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05-12-2004, 01:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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All expenses paid
So, who do you think will get to hang out in the Hague to chat about Geneva Convention violations?
Rummy? He's saying our interrogation "techniques" are appropriate.
Some General, preferably without too many stars? They're likely the ones who designed the interrogation techniques.
Some midling sap, who said something unfortunate like "Give them the Gitmo treatment".
Some shlep with just a bar or two, who probably ordered the application of the technique?
A girl from W.Va. dumb enough to pose for the pictures.
Or should George II himself stand in the dock?
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05-12-2004, 01:20 PM
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silver plated, underrated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Davis Country
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UN envoy thinking about walking
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Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN special representative, was sent to Iraq to ease the passage to democracy much against his will. With his arm twisted by Kofi Annan and George Bush, he reluctantly agreed but warned of the risk of ensnaring the UN in this ill-fated US/UK adventure. As the murder of its previous envoy showed, the UN is unloved in a country that suffered 12 years of corruptly administered UN sanctions. Brahimi warned that the US would never hand over enough power to make a truly independent UN intervention possible. He was right. Now, according to Tony Blair's close advisers, he is about to walk away from Iraq, leaving Britain and America alone to stew after June 30.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1214642,00.html |
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05-12-2004, 01:30 PM
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#4146
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Serenity Now
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UN envoy thinking about walking
Interesting, there is an essay in the WSJ today that basically theorizes that he, as an Arab strong with ties to the "old" Arab world (e.g., Algeria), he was the wrong person for the job to begin with. |
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05-12-2004, 01:32 PM
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#4147
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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UN envoy thinking about walking
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Interesting, there is an essay in the WSJ today that basically theorizes that he, as an Arab strong with ties to the "old" Arab world (e.g., Algeria), he was the wrong person for the job to begin with.
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Why? Doesn't it give him some credibility?
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05-12-2004, 01:36 PM
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Serenity Now
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UN envoy thinking about walking
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why? Doesn't it give him some credibility?
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According to the article, no. There apparently is resentment among the Iraqis because the other arab states sat by and watched as Saddam went about his murderous ways, and that they don't want more of the same "pan-arab solution."
The article was written by Fouad Ajami who is with John Hopkins. I don't know him or whether he has an agenda. |
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05-12-2004, 01:42 PM
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silver plated, underrated
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Davis Country
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UN envoy thinking about walking
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Interesting, there is an essay in the WSJ today that basically theorizes that he, as an Arab strong with ties to the "old" Arab world (e.g., Algeria), he was the wrong person for the job to begin with.
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Who do they suggest as a "New Arab" that would be better? Is there such thing as a New Arab?
I think it would be strange to disqualify someone from helping in the Iraq transition because he had had experience with another state that had previously made a similar shift from an occupation by a foreign power to a democratic system, even if that previous country had met with difficulties in making the transition.* Or am I misunderstanding the thrust of the essay?
* I don't know much about Algeria, but I am assuming that such difficulties would be why his ties were criticized. |
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05-12-2004, 01:44 PM
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#4150
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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UN envoy thinking about walking
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Originally posted by sgtclub
According to the article, no. There apparently is resentment among the Iraqis because the other arab states sat by and watched as Saddam went about his murderous ways, and that they don't want more of the same "pan-arab solution."
The article was written by Fouad Ajami who is with John Hopkins. I don't know him or whether he has an agenda.
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I have heard of Fouad Ajami, but I don't know anything about him. That said, the theory that Iraqis are resentful of other Arab states for not doing anything about Saddam strikes me as the sort of neo-con wishful thinking that got us where we are now.
Whether or not he is the best man for the job, we are in a world of hurt if we've convinced him that the UN should bail on us.
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05-12-2004, 01:56 PM
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Don't touch there
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Master-Planned Reality-Based Community
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UN envoy thinking about walking
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Originally posted by sgtclub
According to the article, no. There apparently is resentment among the Iraqis because the other arab states sat by and watched as Saddam went about his murderous ways, and that they don't want more of the same "pan-arab solution."
The article was written by Fouad Ajami who is with John Hopkins. I don't know him or whether he has an agenda.
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Salon had an article on him. I don't have a subscription, but it suggests that his views, while widely disseminated, are not representative of contemporary Arab thought.
http://dir.salon.com/news/feature/20...ami/index.html |
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05-12-2004, 03:01 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,460
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My breast implants
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Originally posted by not_penske
Its not Ty's fault so much as the utter neglect and derogation of duty of his fellow moderator Putzke. He ruined Infirm and now this board too. Assclam.
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We all should be so lucky as to have our own personal stalker sock. My stalker sock is Tush Munch.
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Originally posted by not_penske
eta: do you a link to an actual picture of your actual boobies? If so, please post. For Hank's sake.
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No, idiot. Why would I give some stranger on an internet board a picture of me?
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05-12-2004, 03:02 PM
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#4153
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Conversation Starter
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Let's talk about zoning!
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Zoning is the new polygamy.
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05-12-2004, 03:05 PM
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#4154
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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My breast implants
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Originally posted by Not Me
No, idiot. Why would I give some stranger on an internet board a picture of me?
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05-12-2004, 03:06 PM
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#4155
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
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GOP Blocks Patriot Act
This is exactly why we need Gorelick to testify about her wall and the damage it did to the ability of our intelligence agencies to protect us.
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