Fashion Board 5-7-04 to 6-9-04

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Just to be accurate, you've combined 2 stories,

The effect is the same.

That community-college writing seminar is paying off already.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I was asking why I would want to fade out of the picture entirely, like an annoying little brother who Mom finally sends to bed

No one wants to hear about your personal life, Wonk. Even when it makes no sense.

TM

[tmdiva]

I was going to plug this the last time someone asked about moisturizers that wouldn't get in your eyes, but didn't get around to it. I love the Kiehl's Ultra Moisturizing Eye Stick SPF 30, which doesn't get in my eyes and seems to have arrested the development of fine lines in the area. It's spendy, but worth it.


I also like their Creamy Eye Treatment with Avocado, but don't use it every night (it doesn't have SPF) like I probably should.

For the rest of my face, I use Eucerin Extra Protective SPF 30. It's really light and non-irritating. Good stuff.

tm

[AnotherSarcasticSock]

I don't think the QE guys are going to come to my house and talk to me about product, so could one of you skin product types tell me what kind of daily use sunscreen I can use on my slightly oily face in the morning after I shave and shower so that I don't get skin cancer and don't get zits.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But these docs with their drinking and smoking and drugging warnings can go to hell. Ever read a doc's warnings on booze? I'd be dead already if they were true, and I'm not alone. I'm also not cirrhotic. I'd sue the fucks for falsely warning people for no good reason if I could. Same goes with moderate smoking. My doc friends readily admit "Yeh, a few a day probably won't do much and binging on a weekend isn't likely to kill you." But the goddamn AMA says any cigarette is too much, because they think we're all too stupid to moderate our consumption. I've smoked for years, but only sparingly, here and there. Never been addicted. My blood pressure is exceptional. As to dope, its all lies. Every stitch of it.

You really should come to the PB. There, we learned the harsh lesson that the plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence." Subsequently, we learned that the axiom remains true for the singular.

Alternate theory: Your "doc friends" don't want you to stop smoking or drinking BECAUSE THEY ARE TIRED OF LISTENING TO YOU. Cheers!

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
You really should come to the PB. There, we learned the harsh lesson that the plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence." Subsequently, we learned that the axiom remains true for the singular.

Alternate theory: Your "doc friends" don't want you to stop smoking or drinking BECAUSE THEY ARE TIRED OF LISTENING TO YOU. Cheers!

You're so cute.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ever read a doc's warnings on booze? I'd be dead already if they were true, and I'm not alone. I'm also not cirrhotic. I'd sue the fucks for falsely warning people for no good reason if I could.

Sebby, that is because you don't understand that you have to have both heavy alcohol consumption and a genetic predisposition (or some other disease like Hep C) to get cirrhosis. The problem is that they don't know the gene that is responsible for this so there is no test for it. They just know that there is a hereditary predisposition. So that is why they warn you - because a certain percentage of heavy drinkers will get cirrhosis and you cannot tell ahead of time who is in that percentage and who isn't. The exception to that is if you have a family history of cirrhosis. Then if you are a heavy drinker, you should definitely consider stopping. Same is true if you are Hep C positive or have some other disorder that is known to predispose you to cirrhosis.

OTOH, if you have a bunch of ancestors who are heavy drinkers and none of them has ever gotten cirrhosis, you are in all likelihood not going to get it. Alcoholic encephalopathy you may get, though. That takes quite a bit of drinking for a long time.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But the goddamn AMA says any cigarette is too much, because they think we're all too stupid to moderate our consumption. I've smoked for years, but only sparingly, here and there. Never been addicted.

Genetics plays a role with this, too. While many people become addicted to nicotine quickly, others never become addicted. The problem is that you cannot tell who is in which group (yet) and for those in the addictive group, it doesn't take many cigarettes for them to become addicted. Once addicted for those people, quitting is very hard.

It isn't about moderation. You just weren't born with the genes that predispose to nicotine addiction.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
He looked like that on Sunday. A can of Wiz in one hand, a bottle of Stoli Vanil in the other hand. I was ugly...

I'm sure Sebby didn't mind. I hear he's not too discriminating when drinking.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
In a fight in high school, I had my head rammed into a closed car door. Put a huge dent in it.

Your head or the car door?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by AnotherSarcasticSock
I don't think the QE guys are going to come to my house and talk to me about product, so could one of you skin product types tell me what kind of daily use sunscreen I can use on my slightly oily face in the morning after I shave and shower so that I don't get skin cancer and don't get zits.

You probably don't need moisturizer, so go to the sunscreen aisle and pick up an oil free neutrogena or coppertone product made specifically for the face. Don't get any waterproof or sports versions because they are like glue. If you are fair-skinned you really ought to get a 30. This would be better than a moisturizer with sunscreen because the product has slightly better coverage.

Just experiment with inexpensive products until you find one you like that won' t make you break out. There's no need to go spendy, especially considering that you should use generous amounts of sunscreen. Most people use too little.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
No one wants to hear about your personal life, Wonk. Even when it makes no sense.

TM

Okay. I'll stay away from that from now on. Thanks for the tip.

Bye.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by AnotherSarcasticSock
I don't think the QE guys are going to come to my house and talk to me about product, so could one of you skin product types tell me what kind of daily use sunscreen I can use on my slightly oily face in the morning after I shave and shower so that I don't get skin cancer and don't get zits.

The Oil of Olay Complete lotion is a good product. It doesn't break me out and I have slightly oily skin.

They are coming out with an SPF 30 version. Haven't tried it.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by AnotherSarcasticSock
I don't think the QE guys are going to come to my house and talk to me about product, so could one of you skin product types tell me what kind of daily use sunscreen I can use on my slightly oily face in the morning after I shave and shower so that I don't get skin cancer and don't get zits.

Neutrogena Dry Touch. It's lightweight and doesn't have a strong scent. Alternately, you could blow a zillion dollars at Clinique, but I don't recommend that unless you're going to pick me up the free gift with purchase.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by spookyfish
I'm sure Sebby didn't mind. I hear he's not too discriminating when drinking.

I never said I could type...

[dtb]

Originally posted by AnotherSarcasticSock
I don't think the QE guys are going to come to my house and talk to me about product, so could one of you skin product types tell me what kind of daily use sunscreen I can use on my slightly oily face in the morning after I shave and shower so that I don't get skin cancer and don't get zits.

You might think this is too girly, but there's a skin-care line called "MD Skin Care" (in NY, they sell it at Bergdorf's -- I don't know where else) that has a moisturizer and skin cream in one. It's very good (I think it's 30 spf) it is also light and unscented.

My skin is oily in the "T-Zone" and it has not caused me any breakouts. I've been using it for over a year.