Fashion Board 12-09-03 through 1-08-04

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by dc_chef
Someone from Atlanta needs to meet you and report back as to what you look like. Every post of yours makes me more curious to find out.

I am just curious to find out if anyone else on the Board is in the Atlanta area. I suppose I could do a below-the-neck photo for the Board but then there would always be speculation about whether or not it is really me. I will mull it over and get back to you.


Private to Less -- what does beer have to do with pooping? Is it supposed to make me "go?" I can see the correlation with peeing, beer being liquid and all, but I didn't realize it is supposed to act as a laxative. In any event, it doesn't work as a laxative on me. I also don't pee very much when drinking. Perhaps my body is just an extremely well-tuned machine and I don't produce much waste.

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I am Tivo-ing the show with The Donald. Oh, and the NFL playoffs. That should keep me busy until the Superbowl and All Star Survivor.

did the Donald show start? reviews? the NYT hasnt reviewed any of this

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
did the Donald show start? reviews? the NYT hasnt reviewed any of this

I think it starts this week. It hasn't popped up on my Now Playing list yet, but I do have a Season Pass.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by bilmore
(Adding after reading more: ABBA, buy the bars. They take care of the urge for sweets/carbs quite well. If you stick to the under-20-grams rule, you'll be amazed at how fast it goes. I know my friend was.)

I weighed myself the morning I started, after pizza (and a lot of it) the night before. I weighed myself this morning (day four) and the scale showed a loss of EIGHT AND A HALF POUNDS. Granted, much of this is probably water weight and some probably because of the pizza the night before, but DAMN. I will be totally done with all I want to lose in like, a day.

But I feel great so I am going the full two weeks. Flockhartdom, here I come.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Skeks in the city
Originally posted by bilmore



They lost 6 pounds a week? You realize a sedentary adult burns around 2000 calories a day, so if they took enough speed to maintain their metabolism while consuming zero calories a week, they'd only lose 4 pounds a week.

So maybe the patch people bilmore associates with are meth-heads. Alternatively, perhaps patch dwellers are as active as professional athletes. A professional athlete could possibly lose 6 pounds a week. For instance, players on New Zealand's rugby team, the "All Blacks", eat 4000 or 5000 a day. Link

This all puts aside dehydration. Everyone knows early on in a diet, there's a quick weight loss due to dehydration. There's even more in the Atkins diet due to the high protein, low carb intake. But dehydration accomplishes nothing except to overwork your kidneys and liver by flushing out all the excess protein. Pushing extra fluid through the kidneys to flush out the protein also has the effect of flushing out extra minerals. This has the added benefit of increasins your risk of kidney stones. And if you're a woman, flushing out calcium also increases your chances of getting osteoperosis. Fun, fun, fun.

I've lost 7+ lbs in a day. All water of course.

And Bilmore, I think it's great that your friends are losing weight. However, I'd be willing to bet that it's b/c Atkins basically keeps you away from junk food. Well, no shit you're going to lose weight if you don't eat that bag of lime Tostitos and side of fries...it's not the protein-rich component that causes the weight loss. It's the "you can't eat the uber-processed white bread and pasta, etc" that only exists in this country.

Edited to add that I agree w/PLF -- converting suburban fatties to a vegetarian diet can only improve their looks. Although I prefer that my spinning hippie chicks shower.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
What I discovered is that drinking does not cause hangovers (unless its some really cheap sugary shit), its drinking plus smoking. I had a whole bottle of wine trying to sit throught the dreadful Angels in America on saturday night and felt just fine on sunday.

Just thought I would point that out.

I wish this were true. I quit smoking three years ago. While I don't wake up in the morning feeling like a cat shit in my mouth anymore, I still get the hangovers.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Look for Okinawa study or something like that. Or mediterranean diet study.

Basically all I eat is grain (i.e. quinoa, millet, oats, etc), fruit, vegetables and fish (I'm 5'9 and 115) and I eat a lot. never been fat. I gained about 10 pounds a few years ago and (before I was a fish-eating vegetarian) and tried Atkins to take it off. I ended up gaining a lot of weight (about 5 more pounds). A high-carb diet works for me (but good carbs).

Thanks.

"The Food Revolution" is making me change the way I think about...well...food. It's disheartening b/c I LOVE red meat...

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
*Needless to say, you should also not sell anything bought or processed, or process anything bought or sold.

Very nice. (And I hear kick boxing is the sport of the future.)

TM

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
it's not the protein-rich component that causes the weight loss. It's the "you can't eat the uber-processed white bread and pasta, etc" that only exists in this country.

As someone who basically only ate carbs before, I can tell you that Atkins works, in part, because you don't WANT to gorge on the foods you are allowed. It is easy and common to consume 1000 calories having cereal or chips and salsa (or hell, pizza) in one sitting. It is far less palatable to eat 8-10 chicken breasts in one sitting.

Obviously it's the calories in, calories out equation. But I'm finding that this is working for me (at least in the short term) because I WANT to cut myself off.

Also, the lack of alcohol is hugely cutting down on my daily caloric intake.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You needed Atkins to tell you its wiser to drink booze than beer? I love beer, but after first semester of college, I realized just what beer does to a person's appearance. I think beer drinkers actually age faster than wine and booze swillers. I don't know any wine fans who spill over the stools at bars or look like Chris Farley in their suits. The beer drinkers I know look like shit. I think its got something to do with the massive amount of calories they're intaking. I'll go out and have four or five galsses of the hard stuff or a bottle of champagne and maybe an Amstel, while these guys will suck down four or five Sierra Nevadas or 8 Budweisers. And beer offers no bang for the buck. You have to drink a gallon of the stuff to get a buzz, and the buzz is a lousy sloppy, lethargic feeling. It also makes you smell. If you have three or four drinks, you may have a slight odor of booze, but beer is like garlic - it gets in your pores and oozes out everywhere.

I notice a lot of beer drinkers are ex frat guys who use the stuff like prozac. It gets them neither high nor low and it tastes good with wings. They get fatter and get laid less and less and become "guy's guys." Thankfully, my libido never allowed me to join that slow death dirge.

Is everything plaid, rainbow or polka-dotted in your world?

TM

[Beelzebubba]

Jesus people, wake up!

Diet blah, blah, blah, Atkins, blah, blah, blah, Zone, blah, blah, South Beach, blah, blah, blah. You guys seem to be paying a lot of attention to fad diets that may let you lose some weight on a diet, but then gain it right back once you get tired of the rules. Change your life, reduce your caloric intake, and exercise already. As a long-time lurker, I'm really getting tired of reading this diet shit and if you don't stop, I'm going to have to go back to work and then everybody will be in deep shit. How's that for tying threads?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I've lost 7+ lbs in a day. All water of course.

And Bilmore, I think it's great that your friends are losing weight. However, I'd be willing to bet that it's b/c Atkins basically keeps you away from junk food. Well, no shit you're going to lose weight if you don't eat that bag of lime Tostitos and side of fries...it's not the protein-rich component that causes the weight loss. It's the "you can't eat the uber-processed white bread and pasta, etc" that only exists in this country.

Edited to add that I agree w/PLF -- converting suburban fatties to a vegetarian diet can only improve their looks. Although I prefer that my spinning hippie chicks shower.

While I agree that some of the benefit of Atkins (indeed, any diet) for most people is removal of Twinkies from the usual meal rotation, apparently the most recent (actually independent) several studies discovered (i) people on Atkins loose more than people on low fat diets when consuming the same number of calories, (ii) people on Atkins lose more than people on low fat diets when consuming several hundred calories per day more than the low fat dieters, (iii) people on Atkins usually eat more fresh fruit and vegetables than non-Atkins dieters and about the same amount as people on strict low fat diets, and (iv) Atkins dieters lower their cholesterol more than low-fat dieters. (No word on the cancer/free radical thing yet, either way, so far as I've found, which makes sense simply because enough time hasn't passed to check long term stuff like that - all each side can do is state their beliefs about what will happen longer term, with basically nothing empirical to back any of it up.) It sure doesn't mean Atkins is good for you, but it clearly means that conventional low-fat thinking is in some basic way wrong.

The independents who did the research all basically say "these results weren't what we were expecting and we don't know why." Of course they don't know why. My take on the whole thing is that dieticians of all stripes, whether low fat or low carb, private gurus or gov't experts or whatever, have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. The "established experts" with the low fat stuff have basically been proven wrong when their theories are tested against others in controlled environments. I seriously doubt any of the "new" low-carb guys are any better. They all sound like they are trying to convince you that Jezis saves and based on about as much uncooked evidence. They all spout equal ignorance, or belief rather than knowledge to be more kind, and might as well be recommending that we stick pins in voodo dolls to lose weight. The only sure thing is that fat, salt and sugar are tasty and people in general have completely lost control of their will power. I'm with SD: moderation is the only truth, but whatever magic tricks people need to employ to get there, fine.

BR(best diet so far, as several others have mentioned: eat nothing that comes prepackaged. That unfortunately involves learning to cook, sort of)C

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I can't figure it all out tonight. I'm just hangin' with your daughter.

Don't be a guy Sidd. The world is filled with guys. Be a man.

TM

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Look for Okinawa study or something like that. Or mediterranean diet study.

Basically all I eat is grain (i.e. quinoa, millet, oats, etc), fruit, vegetables and fish (I'm 5'9 and 115) and I eat a lot. never been fat. I gained about 10 pounds a few years ago and (before I was a fish-eating vegetarian) and tried Atkins to take it off. I ended up gaining a lot of weight (about 5 more pounds). A high-carb diet works for me (but good carbs).

basically, all I eat is grain products (e.g., Quisp, Quake, Captain Crunch, King Vitamin, Twinkies, Snowballs, Ding Dongs, Yodells, Swiss Rolls, Suzy Q's, and Zingers) and I eat a lot. Never been skinny. And I'm 5'6 and 325.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Have I mentioned that a few of my friends think that Larry's wife (Cheryl Hines) is hot as shit? I don't get it. Anyone else think she's hot?