Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[The Larry Davis Experience]

By the way, some foreign news outlets are reporting that it looks like the Pakistanis failed to get Zawahiri or whatever high value target was supposed to be cornered. I've not seen any domestic sites pick this up, so this may just be anti-American propaganda.

However, the possibility does make the conspiracy theorist in me wonder if this whole story was stage managed for Powell's visit.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Your classifications are overbroad and lead you to inaccurate conclusions.

If you're saying that I've mischaracterized your feelings toward Shaw, and you truly do value his work, then you are correct, and I apologize in that regard. But I don't apologize for denigrating your conclusion that ltl did some cute thing intentionally.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by bilmore
If you're saying that I've mischaracterized your feelings toward Shaw, and you truly do value his work, then you are correct, and I apologize in that regard. But I don't apologize for denigrating your conclusion that ltl did some cute thing intentionally.

I didn't exactly conclude she did it intentionally, rather I assumed so, primarily for the sake of denigrating Greedy for kissing your crabby ass. I concede this assumption may have been flawed, but make this concession not in deference to you or even to Shaw, but because I cannot allow fringey to believe I'd kiss her crabby ass.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I didn't exactly conclude she did it intentionally, rather I assumed so, primarily for the sake of denigrating Greedy for kissing your crabby ass.

Well, he was kissing Shaw's crabby ass, and not mine, which was just along for the ride. So you can now deride fring cost-free.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Well, he was kissing Shaw's crabby ass, and not mine, which was just along for the ride. So you can now deride fring cost-free.

Soon this exchange will need its own thread.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
By the way, some foreign news outlets are reporting that it looks like the Pakistanis failed to get Zawahiri or whatever high value target was supposed to be cornered. I've not seen any domestic sites pick this up, so this may just be anti-American propaganda.

However, the possibility does make the conspiracy theorist in me wonder if this whole story was stage managed for Powell's visit.

It was in Briefing dot com's market updates a few hours ago, sourced from Australia. It sounded fishy though, something about an armored Land Rover and a "phalanx" of heavily armed bodyguards rushing out of one of the compounds.

There can't be that many places to hide in the wilderness.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I didn't exactly conclude she did it intentionally, rather I assumed so, primarily for the sake of denigrating Greedy for kissing your crabby ass. I concede this assumption may have been flawed, but make this concession not in deference to you or even to Shaw, but because I cannot allow fringey to believe I'd kiss her crabby ass.

I wasn't kissing his crabby ass. I was reaching across the aisle in a spirit of bipartisanship.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I wasn't kissing his crabby ass. I was reaching across the aisle in a spirit of bipartisanship.

And nothing captures the true spirit of bipartisanship better than the courtesy reach-around.

S_A_M

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
And nothing captures the true spirit of bipartisanship better than the courtesy reach-around.

S_A_M

Go tup a ewe.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by bilmore
I sort of classify people along a continuum. People willing to mangle, or to see the mangling of, Shaw, go on one side. Coincidently, there's a TV on that side.

That's not really a continuum, is it? It seems more like an arbitrary line.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Not only was the Spanish government misleading its own people before the election about the bombings, it was misleading intelligence authorities in other countries. The Financial Times reports of the German government:

• Its federal criminal bureau said the Spanish authorities intentionally withheld information and misled German officials over the explosives used in the Madrid bombings. The Spanish conservative government had insisted the Goma 2 Eco dynamite for the explosives had been frequently used by Eta, the Basque separatist movement. On Monday, it admitted that was not the case.

der link

[bilmore]

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
The Spanish conservative government had insisted the Goma 2 Eco dynamite for the explosives had been frequently used by Eta, the Basque separatist movement. On Monday, it admitted that was not the case.

Didn't their forensic people originally test it out as titadine (an explosive normally used by ETA), but later decide they were wrong? I mean, the government wasn't ever saying that Goma 2 was used by ETA - they made a testing mistake in ID'ing the material, I thought.

(So much can be accomplished with judicious wording.)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
Didn't their forensic people originally test it out as titadine (an explosive normally used by ETA), but later decide they were wrong? I mean, the government wasn't ever saying that Goma 2 was used by ETA - they made a testing mistake in ID'ing the material, I thought.

(So much can be accomplished with judicious wording.)

I don't know. The FT article is about the difficulties of coordinating European anti-terrorism activities, but it's entirely possible that the FT wrote the whole story to unfairly slam the Spanish authorities. I bow to your superior parsing skills.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I bow to your superior parsing skills.

You presumably put this here for a point, and my question really goes to the heart of your point, so you're going to call it parsing. I understand. Do you not ever question things put out if they're by the right (excuse me, left) people? I know Drum said this, so it must represent unbiased and pure-motivated thought, but his statement - the phrasing - just seems disingenuous in the face of the chronology of the test result announcements.