A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'll take a stab at this one. My apologies to anyone I missed.

From most "liberal" to most "conservative:"

SS
Atticus
GGG
Fringey
Ty/Gatti
SAM
BRC
Burger/Club
Hank
Slave
Bilmore

I have trouble classifying Adder and Skek

You left off Larry- I see him as the most intelligent and well-reasoned of the libs. He's between AG and GGG. And I think SS is just an act- I don't think he is really that extreme. I think he's trying to be funny. It's just he usually misses so no one knows that.

[sgtclub]

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[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You left off Larry- I see him as the most intelligent and well-reasoned of the libs. He's between AG and GGG. And I think SS is just an act- I don't think he is really that extreme. I think he's trying to be funny. It's just he usually misses so no one knows that.

I think he's between Ty/Gatti and your doughnut

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I think he's between Ty/Gatti and your doughnut

I'm not his donut. I'm my own donut.

Is there a type of donut shaped like a figure 8? Or am I hallucinating from the sugar in the grande mocha with shot of raspberry syrup? The starbucks guy tried to put that strawberry goop in it -- gross. And he neglected to give me my pastry. I'm not sure if I offended or if he's just still high from last night.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'll take a stab at this one. My apologies to anyone I missed.

From most "liberal" to most "conservative:"

SS
Atticus
GGG
Fringey
Ty/Gatti
SAM
BRC
Burger/Club
Hank
Slave
Bilmore

I have trouble classifying Adder and Skek

And you want to be my running mate?

What definition of "conservative"? Are we saying right-leaning republican to left-leaning democrat here? Because there are multiple dimensions (at least two--social and economic) on which political ideology is usually calculated. And that's why BRC and I are somewhere in the middle.

Personally, I'd put Skek in the Hank area, but more in the redneck republican mold. Adder's a flaming liberal, who's conflicted by his high-paying firm job. He likey the paycheck just a bit too much. Then again, I may not read things so well at 10pm, so I could be way off.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'll take a stab at this one. My apologies to anyone I missed.

From most "liberal" to most "conservative:"

SS
Atticus
GGG
Fringey
Ty/Gatti
SAM
BRC
Burger/Club
Hank
Slave
Bilmore

I have trouble classifying Adder and Skek

I can assure you that there are others here more liberal than I am. nttawwt.

eta: stp.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And you want to be my running mate?

What definition of "conservative"? Are we saying right-leaning republican to left-leaning democrat here? Because there are multiple dimensions (at least two--social and economic) on which political ideology is usually calculated. And that's why BRC and I are somewhere in the middle.

Personally, I'd put Skek in the Hank area, but more in the redneck republican mold. Adder's a flaming liberal, who's conflicted by his high-paying firm job. He likey the paycheck just a bit too much. Then again, I may not read things so well at 10pm, so I could be way off.

Of course it's never that simple. That's why I used quoters for "liberal" and "conservative." I'm working with the totality here, just to give our new friend some flavor.

I used to think Skek was a "liberal" because of his anti-trade, protectionist views. But I'm now starting to agree with you that it's more of a Pat Buchanan position. I also used to think Adder was a flaming liberal, but there have been a couple of times lately where I've actually agreed with him, so now I'm not so sure.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'll take a stab at this one. My apologies to anyone I missed.

From most "liberal" to most "conservative:"

SS
Atticus
GGG
Fringey
Ty/Gatti
SAM
BRC
Burger/Club
Hank
Slave
Bilmore

I have trouble classifying Adder and Skek

Please put adder between Sam and Ty. I am a little freaked being in such close proximity to Ty.

I also might swap Slave & bilmore, but mainly because Slave seems more conservative on the econ while Bilmore is more conservative on the social side, and my bias is to discount the social element of political positions (believing that there is no appropriate political medling in the social stuff, anyway).

Then again, on economics I think I may be to the right of Slave, so who knows.

BR(one of 2547 who voted for Badnarik in NYC - we wuz robbed!)C

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I am a little freaked being in such close proximity to Ty.

That is so hot.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Then again, on economics I think I may be to the right of Slave, so who knows.
BR(one of 2547 who voted for Badnarik in NYC - we wuz robbed!)C

2. Wanting to let old people die if they can't pay, while well-reasoned, is pretty much a far right econ position.

[ltl/fb]

So, all of you "hey I have money so screw the rest of you" people will be happy to know that the tax stuff that was passed in 2001 (EGTRAA) effectively did away with the income cap on making Roth contributions for people who have a say in the design of their employer's retirement plan (or who are their own employer, though I'm not sure whether you could do this in a SIMPLE 401(k)) starting in 2006. (Roth feature can be added as a feature of employer-sponsored plan; no income limit applies.) (There are some limits, sort of -- it's subject to the will-be-in-2006 $15,000 limit that usually applies deferrals, and nondiscrimination testing so that if your lower-paid people don't defer enough, higher-paids can't contribute the full $15,000. But still, they almost certainly can get more in this way than they could if they were eligible to have a stand-alone Roth IRA.)

Congrats! Keep breeding -- I want your kids to grow up in the fucked-up, hellish world that is being created.

Happy Friday.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I'll take a stab at this one. My apologies to anyone I missed.

From most "liberal" to most "conservative:"

SS
Atticus
GGG
Fringey
Ty/Gatti
SAM
BRC
Burger/Club
Hank
Slave
Bilmore

I have trouble classifying Adder and Skek

Where do I fall in, Club? And by the way, nice job of hurting my feelings by forgetting me in the first place. <sniff>

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So, all of you "hey I have money so screw the rest of you" people will be happy to know that the tax stuff that was passed in 2001 (EGTRAA) effectively did away with the income cap on making Roth contributions for people who have a say in the design of their employer's retirement plan (or who are their own employer, though I'm not sure whether you could do this in a SIMPLE 401(k)) starting in 2006. (Roth feature can be added as a feature of employer-sponsored plan; no income limit applies.) (There are some limits, sort of -- it's subject to the will-be-in-2006 $15,000 limit that usually applies deferrals, and nondiscrimination testing so that if your lower-paid people don't defer enough, higher-paids can't contribute the full $15,000. But still, they almost certainly can get more in this way than they could if they were eligible to have a stand-alone Roth IRA.)

Congrats! Keep breeding -- I want your kids to grow up in the fucked-up, hellish world that is being created.

Happy Friday.

What is your native language?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Please put adder between Sam and Ty. I am a little freaked being in such close proximity to Ty.

I also might swap Slave & bilmore, but mainly because Slave seems more conservative on the econ while Bilmore is more conservative on the social side, and my bias is to discount the social element of political positions (believing that there is no appropriate political medling in the social stuff, anyway).

Then again, on economics I think I may be to the right of Slave, so who knows.

BR(one of 2547 who voted for Badnarik in NYC - we wuz robbed!)C

I guess I view the middle of the chart as those being the most liberal in the classical sense of the word.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Where do I fall in, Club? And by the way, nice job of hurting my feelings by forgetting me in the first place. <sniff>

I knew I was forgetting someone. I also forgot Sidd.

I think Sidd is to the left of SAM and you are to the left of Sidd but to the right of Ty/Gatti.