Nutjobs Ranting About Politics. - Page 282

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Gattigap · 09-10-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
As per Power Line, Pat Cadell predicting that if docs are forgeries, the race is unequivocally over, period.

Think of the federal matching funds that would be saved! We could use them to pay a fraction of one day's interest on the debt!

I don't recognize who this pollster is, but I was confused by his statement at the end. "The race is over -- and we've got bigger problems than that."

Huh? The Dems have bigger problems than the forgeries? Or the Dems have bigger problems than losing the race?

And how does predicting that Rather bringing down the Democratic nominee "save the party by telling the truth?"

Weird.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-10-2004, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Think of the federal matching funds that would be saved! We could use them to pay a fraction of one day's interest on the debt!

I don't recognize who this pollster is, but I was confused by his statement at the end. "The race is over -- and we've got bigger problems than that."

Huh? The Dems have bigger problems than the forgeries? Or the Dems have bigger problems than losing the race?

And how does predicting that Rather bringing down the Democratic nominee "save the party by telling the truth?"

Weird.

Caddell said he wasn't trying to sensationalize the issue, explaining that instead "I'm trying to save my party, you know, by telling the truth."

I'm all for democracy and speaking out, but I'm getting a little tired of all the large-d Democrats who keep trying to save the party by "telling the truth." Put a sock in it. Enough with the public hand-wringing.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-10-2004, 08:59 PM

The Russian government is now announcing that not only were there Arabs* with the Chechnyans at Beslan, there were also evil muppets involved:

* "The Russian authorities said there were 10 Arabs among the hostage-takers, although not a single Arab body has been produced."

Hank Chinaski · 09-10-2004, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The Russian government is now announcing that not only were there Arabs* with the Chechnyans at Beslan, there were also evil muppets involved:

there's not one funny thing about this Ty. they let a dozen or so mothers leave with 1 kid- pick- sophie's choice. they raped 12 and 13 year olds. your joke photo is inappropriate.

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"The Russian authorities said there were 10 Arabs among the hostage-takers, although not a single Arab body has been produced."

As opposed to the big tour of Russia that the Chechan bodies have been taken on?

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-10-2004, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
there's not one funny thing about this Ty. they let a dozen or so mothers leave with 1 kid- pick- sophie's choice. they raped 12 and 13 year olds. your joke photo is inappropriate.

"Art produces ugly things which frequently become beautiful with time."
-- Jean Cocteau

"The actual tragedies of life bear no relation to one's preconceived ideas. In the event, one is always bewildered by their simplicity, their grandeur of design, and by that element of the bizzare which seems inherent in them."
-- Jean Cocteau

"Alors, mon ami, Hank Chinaski is my main bitch."
-- Jean Cocteau

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As opposed to the big tour of Russia that the Chechan bodies have been taken on?

They're still getting over decades of Communism -- who are we to question their strange customs and mores? Take it up with the Russian government.

Hank Chinaski · 09-10-2004, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Or the Dems have bigger problems than losing the race?

That's how i read it. I was happy to see a Dem acknowledge that Bush second term doesn't equal armageddonand and that there could be a "bigger problem."

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-10-2004, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
That's how i read it. I was happy to see a Dem acknowledge that Bush second term doesn't equal armageddon and that there could be a "bigger problem."

"bigger problem" = Pat Caddell is out of work

Hank Chinaski · 09-10-2004, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Before 9/11, Republicans were not clamoring to go to war with Afghanistan

Exactly. they're not warmongers despite your dogma.

On the other hand what you say is false. A detailed plan to take out Afghanistan hit Rice's desk on September 9 or 10th. I remember you claimed it was the same basic plan that Clinton had ignored for a few years, but the point is Bush's team was willing to accept they may have to do it.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-10-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
On the other hand what you say is false. A detailed plan to take out Afghanistan hit Rice's desk on September 9 or 10th. I remember you claimed it was the same basic plan that Clinton had ignored for a few years, but the point is Bush's team was willing to accept they may have to do it.

If you think that a detailed plan to take out Afghanistan was on Condi Rice's desk a day or two before September 11, I begin to understand how you could be a Bush supporter. Had that been remotely true, maybe I could support the guy too. Please entertain the possibility that if you are wrong about this, you are wrong about other important things as well.

Hank Chinaski · 09-10-2004, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you think that a detailed plan to take out Afghanistan was on Condi Rice's desk a day or two before September 11, I begin to understand how you could be a Bush supporter. Had that been remotely true, maybe I could support the guy too. Please entertain the possibility that if you are wrong about this, you are wrong about other important things as well.

I remember your ass seconding this but claiming it was Clark's plan or whoever was the big cheese anti-terrorism guy. You are about to learn the same lesson JFK has learned. your own word will come back to haunt you.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-10-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I remember your ass seconding this but claiming it was Clark's plan or whoever was the big cheese anti-terrorism guy.

Clarke had a plan. But (1) it moved from desk to desk in the White House during 2001 without anything ever happening -- appropriation of money, etc. -- so its status as of 9/10/01 is not exactly a credit to the Bush Administration as much as a reflection of the inattention to and disinterest in Al Qaeda; and (2) it wasn't a plan to invade Afghanistan.

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You are about to learn the same lesson JFK has learned. your own word will come back to haunt you.

The lesson being that when debating a conservative, he can say all sorts of dumb things without anyone noticing, but if you can be accused of contradicting yourself, you stand to lose regardless?

Hank Chinaski · 09-10-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The lesson being that when debating a conservative, he can say all sorts of dumb things without anyone noticing, but if you can be accused of contradicting yourself, you stand to lose regardless?

Sphedsezwha?

Diane_Keaton · 09-10-2004, 11:20 PM

For all I know, this is a fake, but if it's not.....read it slowly and admit that it makes you feel a teeny bit better.

Atticus Grinch · 09-11-2004, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by Apropos of Nothing
Apr...uh, speaking of that, I don't understand why fundamentalist Christians who take the Bible as the literal word of God (and cite Leviticus as to why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry) don't keep kosher. Seriously, why is it ok to eat a cheeseburger in 2004 A.D. if it wasn't ok back then?

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