Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Just look to Virginia as a counterexample. Very few exceptions except for private premises where the proprietors object. Very little crime, 'cept in Richmond. I think they actually have some law that actually has an "open" unregistered carry for some types of guns.

And if Texas is so unsafe, why would all the smart liberals on this board live there. Or Chicago and Oakland for that matter. Huh?

I don't think all the liberals, smart or otherwise, live in Texas. I doubt they all live in Chicago or Oakland either.

I don't really know what the crime statistics for Virginia are, either. But I do know that when I lived in Texas, the vast majority of child fatalities were a result of kids playing with guns. In Chicago, more child fatalities come from older kids playing with guns. Any way you slice it, an awful lot of peope seem to get killed by them. I think that would suggest they aren't a good thing to place in the hands of the yahoos that make up the bulk of the American public.

[Not Me]

Nothing for you to see here. Just facts and sound logic.

[http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/dwest.htm

[Not Me]

Dhimmitude. Read all about it.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/why-dhimmi.htm

Now that is racism for you, AG.

[Atticus Grinch]

Doctor-sponsored group films tort reform infomercial footage in an emergency room. Commence HIPAA lawsuit!

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I don't think all the liberals, smart or otherwise, live in Texas. I doubt they all live in Chicago or Oakland either.

I don't really know what the crime statistics for Virginia are, either. But I do know that when I lived in Texas, the vast majority of child fatalities were a result of kids playing with guns. In Chicago, more child fatalities come from older kids playing with guns. Any way you slice it, an awful lot of peope seem to get killed by them. I think that would suggest they aren't a good thing to place in the hands of the yahoos that make up the bulk of the American public.

Well I can't really disagree with what you said starting with "Any way you slice it". I'm all in favor of allowing and encouraging concealed-carry for various classes (military, otherwise trained and vetted civilians), but certainly not everybody. As for the children, I'd be interested to see if the gun-owners in the child-fatality cases tend to be the same gun-owners that would qualify for concealed-carry. You know, no prior felonies etc. etc. While occasionally you hear stories in Chicago about cops' kids, the bulk that come to my mind are kids who find guns that were obtained and hidden by criminals. Of course, Chicago is a special case of mass-stupidity and criminality (see, e.g., da Mare and pals), so I'm pretty sure I'm opposed to concealed-carry here/there.

BTW, neither you nor anyone else seemed to pick up on the Chicago and Oakland reference. The question wasn't supposed to be whether the smart liberals live there. The obvious question should have been why in the world I would use those as models of safety based on concealed-carry tolerance. I know, I know, yawwwwwnnnn, I gotta quit throwing up these softballs to the conservatives here (and thanks for playing y'all).

On another note, somewhere in Chicago, my cousin's girlfriend (who is another lawyer) has gotta be telling people this week how I and my brother in law shouted her down in a debate on presidentical politics by chanting "U.S.A., U.S.A.". If anyone hears that story, say hello for me. I highly recommend this tactic for anyone on the left or the right in their next political debate, as I don't think we could possibly have flustered her more using any other tactic. I'd love to see what O'Reilly would do if a leftist did this to him.

Hello

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
child-fatality cases

I just want to see the cite for Wonks claim that the majority of child fatalities in TX were due to gun deaths. I don't believe that. The majority of child deaths are indeed accidental deaths, but my money's on car wrecks killing more kids than guns.

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
On another note, somewhere in Chicago, my cousin's girlfriend (who is another lawyer) has gotta be telling people this week how I and my brother in law shouted her down in a debate on presidentical politics by chanting "U.S.A., U.S.A.". If anyone hears that story, say hello for me. I highly recommend this tactic for anyone on the left or the right in their next political debate, as I don't think we could possibly have flustered her more using any other tactic. I'd love to see what O'Reilly would do if a leftist did this to him.

I just stand up on the table and burst into a rendition of "God Bless America." Same effect.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For all the conservatives who blamed Clinton for lobbing cruises missiles at Afghanistan and Sudan instead of sending in the troops, does it really piss you off when you see on the news that we've bombed another house in Fallujah or Samarra?

No, why?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
No, why?

I didn't think so, but it's nice of you to confirm my suspicions.

[Say_hello_for_me]

reports that the Fallujah Brigade has now been disbanded. The article describes two marine aircraft getting shot up while flying over their base.

Ty, what were you saying about Fallujah? Should we be:

1.) Leveling the town;
2.) Conducting precision strikes;
3.) Nothing; or
4.) Something else.

Personally, I think the answer is 4. The Marines should be instructed to go in heavy, provided that no political second-guessing will be made by the administration before the job is done. Granted, I was in favor of the creation of the Brigade at first, at least insofar as the commanders on the ground appeared to be in favor of it too. Now, it doesn't look like there are many alternatives left (again) to the use of heavy force.

Hello

[Not Me]

I don't know how I feel about this. If he was involved with the brutal interrogations of the USS Pueblo guys, I think he should pay a big price.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?...&article=24319

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
reports that the Fallujah Brigade has now been disbanded. The article describes two marine aircraft getting shot up while flying over their base.

Ty, what were you saying about Fallujah? Should we be:

1.) Leveling the town;
2.) Conducting precision strikes;
3.) Nothing; or
4.) Something else.

Personally, I think the answer is 4. The Marines should be instructed to go in heavy, provided that no political second-guessing will be made by the administration before the job is done. Granted, I was in favor of the creation of the Brigade at first, at least insofar as the commanders on the ground appeared to be in favor of it too. Now, it doesn't look like there are many alternatives left (again) to the use of heavy force.

Hello

I'd go in and go in heavy, but with orders to take every reasonable effort to minimize civilian casualties. We're there, so the only reasonable thing is to do the job right.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I'd go in and go in heavy, but with orders to take every reasonable effort to minimize civilian casualties. We're there, so the only reasonable thing is to do the job right.

(emphasis added).

The devil, of course, being in the details.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I didn't think so, but it's nice of you to confirm my suspicions.

What suspicions? That the insurgents are hiding out in houses and using women and children as human shields? So what should the US forces do then? Keep letting marines get killed because the insurgents are using human shields? In that situation, someone has to die. It is either the insurgents and unfortunately the human shields being used by the insurgents or US marines. If they let these insurgents hide out in these houses and continue to attack the marines, it is the marines that die.

War is ugly and when insurgents are using civilian human shields, it is very, very ugly.

You have just confirmed my suspicions that you don't have any relatives in Iraq. So it is easy for you to say that the US forces shouldn't defend themsevles just because those murdering them use human shields.

[Not Me]

I think this election is over with. The reality is that the more the public gets to know Kerry, the less they like him. Not surprising given that he is an empty suit and his wife is a nut case (e.g., shove it, idiots, cookiegate, etc.).

I feel safer knowing a Rep will be in the WH. I am certain that if Kerry would have been elected, it would embolden the terrorists.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...EJPr0&refer=us

Time, Newsweek polls showing GWB with an 11 point lead and a 6 point lead, respectively.

[Not Me]

Those of you who are advocating slave reparations for blacks in American who had ancesters who were slaves should advocate that black Americans who can trace their ancestry back to the Sudanese slave owners should pay slave reparations to those blacks who were/are being held in slavery today. At least in that case, the slave reparations would be paid to those who were/are slaves.

The quest for slave reparations is just another example of how the culture of black Americans continues to be the cause of the permanent underclass in this society. If only all the energy being put into this unproductive quest for slave reparations were put into changing black culture so that education was more respected, we might see a diminishment in the size of the black underclass. Way to go AG!