Fashion Board 11-2-03 - 12-09-03

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Why the third person descriptor? Can't you just write "my friends and I"? And I've also noticed you say "the GF," rather than "my GF." That seems impersonal to me -- perhaps this is the reason that Paigow has doubts about the durability of this relationship. (And it's different from "The Mr." or "The Oddman," for example, because those are nicknames.)

Also, you don't do this, but it's sort of in the same vein -- I hate it when people say female when they mean woman. It strikes me as a rather reductive way to describe a person. For the same reason I don't like it when people say male when they mean man, but this is less much common. In fact, it my observation, it is usually men who use that construction. A woman will usually say man or woman, unless that woman is a police officer and is appearing at a press conference, in which case it is of course futile to hope for adherence to any meaningful standards of English usage.

Does this bug anybody else?

ETA -- Soup, I wrote this before I read your post so it wasn't a passive agressive Friday flame.

I have a gf who I tease about this very thing. She always calls women "females", which just sounds odd to me. I'm not sure I would notice in written word, however.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Everyone thinks that children are so fucking fragile. They're not.

You would probably like my house. Spent the night a few days ago taking one of the more active Bagguettes in for his bi-monthly e-room trip, this time with a broken arm imposed on him by bigger bro in a mutual scuffle. His biggest complaint - how long would he have to miss b-ball?

If you don't get along with your spouse, you can't hide that from them. And staying together for them is the dumbest idea I can think of.

Unless you are beating each other in front of the kids, I'd have to disagree on this one. Studies are pretty clear that staying together (in the absence of true, out-and-out conflict, of course), results in happier, better-adjusted kids.

We've turned into a country where parents run after their kids trying to keep them from getting dirty, eating dirt, getting bullied, seeing nudity, seeing violence, getting their feelings hurt, etc.

I wasn't supposed to buy them Doom?

And if your kid shows any sign of being different than other kids, they get drugged.

They wish. That's my job.

People are stupid.

Some people are stupid.

Oh, and the best way to avoid sissifying your daughter? Give her brothers. (Smallest Bagguette loves to watch bro's getting stitches. Especially when she caused them.)

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I have a gf who I tease about this very thing. She always calls women "females", which just sounds odd to me. I'm not sure I would notice in written word, however.

Maybe she watches a lot of animal planet.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Why the third person descriptor? Can't you just write "my friends and I"? And I've also noticed you say "the GF," rather than "my GF." That seems impersonal to me -- perhaps this is the reason that Paigow has doubts about the durability of this relationship. (And it's different from "The Mr." or "The Oddman," for example, because those are nicknames.)

Also, you don't do this, but it's sort of in the same vein -- I hate it when people say female when they mean woman. It strikes me as a rather reductive way to describe a person. For the same reason I don't like it when people say male when they mean man, but this is less much common. In fact, it my observation, it is usually men who use that construction. A woman will usually say man or woman, unless that woman is a police officer and is appearing at a press conference, in which case it is of course futile to hope for adherence to any meaningful standards of English usage.

Does this bug anybody else?

ETA -- Soup, I wrote this before I read your post so it wasn't a passive aggressive Friday flame.

"The GF" is an inside joke, and I'm the only one in on it. I amuse myself sometimes.

And I use the third person descriptor because IRL I am Rickey Henderson.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by bilmore
Studies are pretty clear that staying together (in the absence of true, out-and-out conflict, of course), results in happier, better-adjusted kids.

Cite please.

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by baltassoc
You must of been smacked in the head particularly hard during your mugging. Dalton No. 2? Not a chance. And his two movies sucked worse than anything except Moonraker and Octopussy. Brosnan deserves to be second, early Moore third, Lazenby 4, late Connery fifth, then late Moore and then Dalton, maybe, if you really want to count him as a Bond.

Lazenby really did stink, but he had the advantage of being in what would have been the best Bond film but for him (mmmm, Diana Rigg, argggghhhh).

Dalton is the only Bond who actually knows how to act. And the Living Daylights is a very good movie. Most people don't like Licensed to Kill because it strays from the Bond formula which makes people believe it almost killed the franchise. But it's very good because Dalton is just pissed the whole movie, Q gets to work in the field a bit, the bad guy is good, Benicio del Toro gets grinded up, and the waterskiing behind the plane scene is perhaps one the best Bond "slick escape" scenes.

Lazenby is good because he was the youngest actor to play Bond, and it shows. The fight scenes and skiing scenes are well done.

I like Bronsnan in other roles, but not as Bond. He's just too much of a pussy. Plus, his movies are too much like schwartzennegger films.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
He never should have given up animation rights.

That show (1) still criminally underutilizes David Cross and Jeffrey Tambor; and (2) is the only funny thing Jason Bateman has ever done. And I'm including "Silver Spoons" in that, a show I loved at the time but which simply doesn't hold up in syndication. I'm just waiting for Bateman to be replaced by Alfonso Ribeiro.

What about "It's Your Move?"

And I like Arrested Development. Bateman isn't supposed to be funny. He's the straight man to everyone else in the family and he does it well. And they use Tambor just enough. The guy ain't that funny. The one guy who would send that show into cancellation if he left is Will Arnett (the older brother). He's very funny.

David Cross is only funny when he's writing for himself. He can only perform his particular, offbeat sense of humor and has trouble conveying someone else's. I understand the whole show is kind of offbeat and this is probably why they got him, but I still think he needs to do his own stuff.

TM

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Not Me
Cite please.

This one is pretty generally accepted amongst those kinds of people who know such things. Specific cites that I might dredge up would be dated, as I've been out of family law for years, but Google it and I bet you find a ton of stuff about it.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by soup sandwich
What are some examples of simpifying? I have two daughters so I'd prefer that they not be simps. Of course, being a male, by definition I understand nothing about females so I'm always looking for any insight.

Relentless toy gender-stereotyping kills me. What is so wrong with giving a little girl blocks and letting her build stuff? I actually had someone tell me I should have gotten her toddler daughter a doll instead (NTTAWWT, but exclusively?). I also notice parents holding back their girls more than their boys, all the time, when they get wiggly and start running around or trying to climb something. They don't have to be perfect demure little ladies all the time. Constant pink-ifying and frilling--I don't think you're inadvertently going to raise a burly mustachioed linebacker if you actually let the girl wear a primary color. Even blue!

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
ETA -- Soup, I wrote this before I read your post so it wasn't a passive aggressive Friday flame.

I really did mean females. Women. Girls.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by bilmore
This one is pretty generally accepted amongst those kinds of people who know such things.

And 60% of Harvard grads think that it is colder in the winter because the Earth is farther away from the sun. The fact that something is generally accepted says little to nothing about whether it is accurate or not.

Originally posted by bilmore
Specific cites that I might dredge up would be dated, as I've been out of family law for years, but Google it and I bet you find a ton of stuff about it.

I know the literature on this topic and there are few well-designed studies on this topic. The studies that you refer to generally don't make any attempt to determine what level of conflict exists in a marriage.

Most of these studies are poorly designed and because of the poor design, the conclusion you draw from them is not supported.

Sooooo - cite please. Dated or otherwise. The reason I am asking you for a cite is to point out to you the flawed methodology these "studies" use. Many of them are conducted by groups who have a political agenda that they want the study to "prove" is right.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I was a bit off in my initial description of the post location and in thinking water was involved in the pic. My bad! It was baby oil.

http://www.lawtalkers.com/forums/sho...tasy#post14755

Has the offending photo been posted elsewhere? Adult Board?

TM

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Relentless toy gender-stereotyping kills me. What is so wrong with giving a little girl blocks and letting her build stuff? I actually had someone tell me I should have gotten her toddler daughter a doll instead (NTTAWWT, but exclusively?). I also notice parents holding back their girls more than their boys, all the time, when they get wiggly and start running around or trying to climb something. They don't have to be perfect demure little ladies all the time. Constant pink-ifying and frilling--I don't think you're inadvertently going to raise a burly mustachioed linebacker if you actually let the girl wear a primary color. Even blue!

You know, sometimes (more often than not?) the kids themselves pick the gender stereotyped toys. I have a friend with boy/girl twins, and so she has all kinds of toys in the house, and the boy picks the trucks and tractors and blocks more often and the girl picks the dolls and tea set and doll house more often -- and I don't think it's explained by a proprietary sense that they have because those toys were given to that child.

And the little girl is now in an ultra-feminine phase where she wants to wear pink and purple and curl her pigtails so she can flirt with my boyfriend when we visit (that beeyotch!); and the little boy is like a little ball of destruction and I always leave with bruises. (Little girl is actually quite funny -- she flips her hair with her hand and then coyly looks over her shoulder. I still haven't mastered that one without laughing at myself.)

They are actually an interesting study in gender-specific behavior and nature/nurture. And studies do show that hormone exposure in vitro does explain a lot of these behaviors.

And this is just my experience, but none of the ultra feminine little girls that I know are that way because their mothers want it that way, or because their mothers are that way themselves. Kids are funny.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by evenodds
Dammit, this was my list.

Though I am almost 20 hours late to the party, this is my recently played iTunes list:

Brand New Heavies, Trunk Funk Classics
D'Angelo, Brown Sugar, Voodoo
DJ Krush, Zen
Indie alt-country album
Indie alt-rock album
Underground chopped and screwed hip-hop
Outkast, S/LB, Stankonia, Aquemini
Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride
RRFB, Unclassifed
Stevie Wonder
Nathaniel Merriweather, Lovage
Amadou & Mariam, Mali to Memphis
DJ Shadow, Bombay the Hard Way, Private Press, Endtroducing
Dr. Octagon, Dr. Octagonecologyst
Kool Keith, Black Elvis
Damon Albarn, Mali Music

Hell, if E/O can be late, I can too.


First, Hildegard - Canticles of Ecstasy, by Sequentia. We can all use Ecstasy at Christmas Time.

Second, to establish uptown Cred -- Milton Babbitt's String Quartets

Third, so the downtown hip crowd talks to me -- Philip Glass' Anima Mundi

Fourth, to demonstrate that I was once a different kind of Hip -- Annie & the Shirts (cassette)

Fifth, because once I was even more hip and want to have cred with PLF -- The Message (vinyl)

Sixth, to establish "cool" w/ 10 year old daughter -- Avril Levigne (stopped working about 6 months ago)

Finally, for when I want to kick back and screw having cred, being hip, or oozing cool -- Bowie, Let's Dance

[Dave]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Why the third person descriptor? Can't you just write "my friends and I"? ...

Are the Coltrane Friends nattily attired in multicolored spandex, and do they have superpowers?

If not, they should (be).