Fashion Board 12-09-03 through 1-08-04

[leagleaze]

Ok tell me this. What's with all the crying? Did you guys have students crying in law school? Do you get lawyers crying now?

I see it way too often. Saw it in class too. We had a Civ Pro prof who was famous for making several people go running out of the room crying every year. When the OJ Simpson verdict came down she sent someone out of the room to listen to it and report back. Well this one guy was told, in front of the whole class, that he wasn't allowed to listen to what happened, but had to continue researching something he didn't know the answer to while we all learned about the verdict. She often singled people out. She had been riding him for a good half hour before that. He did cry, but not until later and in private. I just happened to be there to see it.

That woman beat me up on numerous occasions. I just shrugged and took it. Learned a lot too. I didn't go back to my apartment and weep. So what's the deal?

Apparently during my third year when I was judging Moot Court I scared one girl so much she went home crying. It was classic. I didn't mean to make her cry of course, but I had to chuckle when I heard about it.

I will admit that I am just bitchy enough that when I make another attorney cry, it amuses me no end. I mean WTF? Why are you crying? What did Tom Hanks say? "There's no crying in baseball." Well that should apply here, there's no crying in law.

Fucking pussies.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by purse junkie

Touching. God, can't people just have sex any more then call it a day?

Yeah, but Brittney was saving it for marriage, right, so she had to get married first.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Ok tell me this. What's with all the crying? Did you guys have students crying in law school? Do you get lawyers crying now?

Only one I remember clearly was a woman who had been paralyzed in college (waist or so down). She got pretty upset by the rest of the class's debate on how damages should have been set in the hairy hand case. i think she was upset that damages could possibly compensate. if she shows up in the jury pool on atort case, be sure to strike her.

I'd call her a pussy, but she was a pretty nice person with a sad story. But, shit, it's not like we were debating her. We were debating the hairy hand of a guy who died a hundred years ago.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Ok tell me this. What's with all the crying? Did you guys have students crying in law school? Do you get lawyers crying now?

I see it way too often. Saw it in class too. We had a Civ Pro prof who was famous for making several people go running out of the room crying every year. When the OJ Simpson verdict came down she sent someone out of the room to listen to it and report back. Well this one guy was told, in front of the whole class, that he wasn't allowed to listen to what happened, but had to continue researching something he didn't know the answer to while we all learned about the verdict. She often singled people out. She had been riding him for a good half hour before that. He did cry, but not until later and in private. I just happened to be there to see it.

That woman beat me up on numerous occasions. I just shrugged and took it. Learned a lot too. I didn't go back to my apartment and weep. So what's the deal?

Apparently during my third year when I was judging Moot Court I scared one girl so much she went home crying. It was classic. I didn't mean to make her cry of course, but I had to chuckle when I heard about it.

I will admit that I am just bitchy enough that when I make another attorney cry, it amuses me no end. I mean WTF? Why are you crying? What did Tom Hanks say? "There's no crying in baseball." Well that should apply here, there's no crying in law.

Fucking pussies.

We had someone vomit in class they were so frightened by the prof. This prof reminded me, physically and mentally, of a cross b/w Jabba the Hut and Bobby Knight.

I think I was like Sebby in that I either sat there and stared at the "intimidating" professor until he chose someone else or said "I'm sorry - I don't know the answer. Why don't you call on someone else." The prof/student relationship didn't seem like one of power to me, so I felt no reason to feel insulted or intimidated. Or maybe I just didn't care.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Ok tell me this. What's with all the crying? Did you guys have students crying in law school? Do you get lawyers crying now?

At a sort of friendly negotiation, I had "opposing" counsel start the meeting with "let's all join hands and pray the meeting goes well!"
But he didn't cry when not everyone joined in.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
At a sort of friendly negotiation, I had "opposing" counsel start the meeting with "let's all join hands and pray the meeting goes well!"

No one who knows all of the words to Kumbaya should ever be allowed to become a lawyer.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bilmore
And you're still arguing substantively, I see.

(It's about way more than just the bucks. There's that whole misogyny thing, too.)

What's the point of making the same substantive argument to a handful of idjits who have formed their opinion on a whole category of music based on the little (at most) actual knowledge they have? You put it in a category separate from all other music and entertainment and are very pleased with yourself for doing so. That's stupid. I don't need to argue substantively anymore. My last response seems to be all you're able understand in response to your purposefully ignorant blanket statements.

(Putting your comments in parentheticals makes them no less stupid.)

TM

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Ok tell me this. What's with all the crying? Did you guys have students crying in law school? Do you get lawyers crying now?

I can only remember one person crying in law school - the legal writing instructor said something to her - god knows what, he was a pussy himself - and it made her cry. Didn't see it much.

A woman I work with says she cries all the time at work. I have never seen it. I guess she hides it well. I cried once at work - many years ago - I had been at work for about a week and was completely overwhelmed - for about a minute, in the bathroom stall. Silent sobbing, so no one knew. That was it and that's the only time it has happened, thank god.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I think I was like Sebby in that I either sat there and stared at the "intimidating" professor until he chose someone else or said "I'm sorry - I don't know the answer. Why don't you call on someone else." The prof/student relationship didn't seem like one of power to me, so I felt no reason to feel insulted or intimidated. Or maybe I just didn't care.

Okay, one other weird thing about my law school section: no one ever "passed." Ever. No one ever missed a class, no one ever took a pass. I think in my first semester, there were maybe two passes, both in the last two weeks, and when the first one happend I remember thinking "we can do that?". My reaction was not unique. Apparently, one of the other sections was the polar opposite, and there was some debate among the faculty about how to deal with the situation - they really didn't think it fair to put the two classes on the same curve. They ended up punching my class's grades to the top of the permissable curve and the bad section to the bottom, according to the property prof I later became good friends with.

It wasn't an intimidation thing - it just was a collective sense that passing just was not done.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Her exam was one of those fill in the balnk types where the questions were the kind like "In my downstairs bathroom, I have painted the west wall ___________."

Fuck. I don't know the answer to that one. Was it on the bar?

TM

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I don't need to argue substantively anymore.

A. You just did.

2. I'm baiting you.

Last, I'm still trying to picture you breaking up fights.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I cried once at work - many years ago - I had been at work for about a week and was completely overwhelmed - for about a minute, in the bathroom stall. Silent sobbing, so no one knew. That was it and that's the only time it has happened, thank god.

I cried at work once, too. But it was because I had taken way too much acid. I thought my hands were melting.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I cried at work once, too. But it was because I had taken way too much acid. I thought my hands were melting.

Hey crying is fine. Just be discrete. You should also be discrete with your hand melting.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Silliest person was this woman who [asked] "so, this is why the minimum wage is unconstitutional?" And everyone is sitting there going "WTF?" And the prof, who was rather known for not controlling discussion well said "um, I'm not sure what you mean, would you clarify?" And she said "well, the minimum wage doesn't provide a living wage for the black people who earn it and therefore is a badge and incident of slavery."

We had a girl in Con Law who kept wondering (out loud) why the mother of a woman was being charged with manslaughter of her in utero fetus after causing it to be delivered stillborn somehow.

When the professor asked her what she meant, she said, "Well, she can't be charged with manslaughter if the baby wasn't dead. It says right here that even though she messed up, the baby was still born."

Much laughing at her expense. After getting up off of the floor and wiping my eyes and catching my breath, I actually felt a little bad for her. But it passed.

TM

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
What's the point of making the same substantive argument to a handful of idjits who have formed their opinion on a whole category of music based on the little (at most) actual knowledge they have? You put it in a category separate from all other music and entertainment and are very pleased with yourself for doing so. That's stupid. I don't need to argue substantively anymore. My last response seems to be all you're able understand in response to your purposefully ignorant blanket statements.

(Putting your comments in parentheticals makes them no less stupid.)

TM

No, you're being overly sensitive. I could have been more specific, admittedly, and narrowed the "rap" field to "the crap they play on MTV," which is what I meant, but I didn't.

I also wasn't trying to be too judgemental: this site is (or was) all about the Benjamines too. Nothing wrong with that. I was just trying to wrap my head around the fact that when I thought the term "sell out" at seeing Snoop Dog selling cell phones, and the negative connotation that invokes, I was perhaps imposing a cultural assumption that is inappropriate (or perhaps simply irrelevant) in the rap context. I'm willing to accept that, but as my post noted, my biases are such that while I can see relaxing the standard (i.e. selling out is okay), there is still some limit (custom written songs and redickulous videos are still too far).

So I ask again: is selling out really "selling out" when making money is considered a definative positive in the underlying cultural paradigm? And if so, isn't this really more honest than the pablum rock artist try to spout about not being in it for the money?