Still Hating America.

[captain marvelous]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
If it means anything to you, I bought a candy bar because of you.

What kind?

If you like chocolate and want to send a message (perhaps via a candy bowl in your office) here is a link to Vote Democrat chocolate coins. A friend of mine had these at a post-election victory party in November. Fun and tasty.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by captain marvelous
What kind?

If you like chocolate and want to send a message (perhaps via a candy bowl in your office) here is a link to Vote Democrat chocolate coins. A friend of mine had these at a post-election victory party in November. Fun and tasty.

Snickers.

Thanks, but I'm ok on my chocolate political messages this month.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Thanks, but I'm ok on my chocolate political messages this month.

POTY

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

What's the cover of the one for any other system? Cattle at the slaughterhouse? Buffalo on the buffalo jump?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What's the cover of the one for any other system? Cattle at the slaughterhouse? Buffalo on the buffalo jump?

Don't they say that you shouldn't watch yourself eating sausage, but it tastes better than other meats?

eta: Sadly, I failed to relate your gossip about the thing until the thing was public, and then it wasn't news anymore.

[Diane_Keaton]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, although partial birth abortions are prohibited (unless the life of the mother is at risk) during the same period of gestation, a mother and her doctor can still abort -- they just have to use the dilation and extraction method, which is removing pieces of the child one by one. All remnants are vacuumed out -- the same with an early abortion. With a partial birth abortion, the doctor actually delivers the child (in breech position) -- except when the head is about to come out, the doctor stops, jams scissors into the back of the child's head and sucks its brains out -- all so that he can say the child was killed while still in the woman's body.

Link of diagram showing procedure - drawing (not real child): http://www.pathlights.com/abortion/images/Abort.gif

Since the law still allows the dilation and extraction method very late in the pregnancy term (you can still abort a fetus that is 6 months), why is everyone up in arms over banning the procedure where the baby is hanging out except for its head? In the UK and most other countries that allow abortions, the Partial Birth procedure is not done. I'm surprised the pro-choice movement is advocating so strongly to keep the procedure legal when the D&E procedure is still legal. From what I've read, D&E isn't much more of a risk to the mother than Partial Birth abortion.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
I'm surprised the pro-choice movement is advocating so strongly to keep the procedure legal when the D&E procedure is still legal. From what I've read, D&E isn't much more of a risk to the mother than Partial Birth abortion.

Probably for the same reason that the NRA fights against the regulation of assault weapons.

S_A_M

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Probably for the same reason that the NRA fights against the regulation of assault weapons.

Which is to say that I've seen it suggested that you'll set a lot more regulation of abortion now, with the practical effect of making it more difficult -- nay, impossible -- to get an abortion as a practical matter.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Which is to say that I've seen it suggested that you'll set a lot more regulation of abortion now, with the practical effect of making it more difficult -- nay, impossible -- to get an abortion as a practical matter.

well shiver me timbers!

say if the public knew that every time Edwards showed up with a bad haircut, another poor woman was able to travel to a blue state to get an abortion, don't you think that would get him votes?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
well shiver me timbers!

say if the public knew that every time Edwards showed up with a bad haircut, another poor woman was able to travel to a blue state to get an abortion, don't you think that would get him votes?

A lot of people would donate money to pay him to get bad haircuts, and a few wingnuts would start shooting cheap barbers.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
A lot of people would donate money to pay him to get bad haircuts, and a few wingnuts would start shooting cheap barbers.

I'll give you that one (310-23 )

but hear me out-

I have friends who are pirates. If they happen upon this board and read fake Pirate talk they might move on instead of registering and I would find that sad. "Shiver me timbers" is how real pirates talk. "avast" is Hollywood- it's not funny and I ask you to stop using the word- it offends.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Which is to say that I've seen it suggested that you'll set a lot more regulation of abortion now, with the practical effect of making it more difficult -- nay, impossible -- to get an abortion as a practical matter.

Abortion's like gun control. Those who want it will always get it. Although, I would agree that women who have the least means will likely be dissuaded if additional hurdles are added.

I'm not supporter of the partial birth thing, but I'm very much against allowing the other forms that remain legal to be free and easily accessed (I'd even fund that with massive government money [happily paid through a tax increase on my income bracket]).

The "conservatives" who see this as a means to further restrict other forms of abortion are no conservatives at all. They're just finding new ways to create a million new poor and destitute mouths for the govt teat every year. We should pay for abortions and the pill for every American who wants it, and incentivize with cash those who cannot afford their issue to utilize borth control.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Probably for the same reason that the NRA fights against the regulation of assault weapons.

S_A_M

Indeed. Scorched Earth. Zero tolerance.

The hallmarks of reasoned debate.

[andViolins]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'm not supporter of the partial birth thing, but I'm very much against allowing the other forms that remain legal to be free and easily accessed (I'd even fund that with massive government money [happily paid through a tax increase on my income bracket]).

I've read this a few times now, and I'm pretty sure that you really didn't mean to put the word "against" in there.

aV

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by andViolins
I've read this a few times now, and I'm pretty sure that you really didn't mean to put the word "against" in there.

aV

Oh, shit, you're right. Bad typo there.

Nothing Freudian; I have not gone over to the Jesus Freak ticket.