Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Southern Patriot]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I would respond to this if I thought you were serious.

Boy, it's worked in this part of the country for generations. Remember, most of those so-called civil rights are derived from amendments to the constitution passed without the free consent of the southern states and forced on them, and so should not be considered part of our Constitution. The rest come from the so-called Bill of Rights that .... well, Jefferson couldn't be right about everything, now, could he?

But don't you worry. With two new nominees to the Supreme Court, Bush is going to fix these so-called civil rights.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Son, I understand your point, really I do. I agree that Bush is a true patriot and utterly free of all responsibility as commander in chief with respect to our army boys not deploying. I also agree that the fact that a few states didn't send their national guard couldn't as Blanco requested because Washington hadn't processed the paperwork is probably just a bunch of Yankee double talk (hell, what do they expect, it was August vacation). And that Bus thing, well, Ty ought to know like you do that you got to pull the buses up and tell those people to get on, cause they don't take initiative on their own.

But the logic that saying anyone else is responsible will take blame away from Nagin - well, hell, boy, then how are we going to blame the victims?

This might have been funnier coming from your primary.

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I don't know or care whose fault it is, but this should never happen again.

I think there should be an independent investigation complete with beheadings of the responsible leaders, at the state and federal levels.

And people wonder why cops get shot at in bad neighborhoods? Perfectly appropriate under these circumstances. Remember, the SS were police also. While blasting NWA and Ice T on your radio.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Boy, it's worked in this part of the country for generations. Remember, most of those so-called civil rights are derived from amendments to the constitution passed without the free consent of the southern states and forced on them, and so should not be considered part of our Constitution. The rest come from the so-called Bill of Rights that .... well, Jefferson couldn't be right about everything, now, could he?

But don't you worry. With two new nominees to the Supreme Court, Bush is going to fix these so-called civil rights.

this is why you made the sock. Do you see the difference?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I can't tell whether you are being stupid or being a troll. Either way, I'm sick of it. I'm not defending Nagin. I have yet to see a good explanation, anywhere, of what happened with those buses, notwithstanding asking you repeatedly.

Waht more do you need to know. The buses existed, over 250 of them, enough to ferry 16,000 people per run. I have posted pictures of them and they have been on respectable news sites.

there was an emergency plan in place calling for the use of the buses to evacuate the poor and those otherwise unable to leave of their own mode of transport. I have put up a cite to the plan.

the school board of the Orleans Parish also discussed the use of the buses for this very purpose in June of this year. I put up a cite to the cached minutes of the meeting, which show that the School Board had discussed the issue with the city.

Bush called Blanco and asked for a mandatory evacuation order 2 days before the hurricane hit.

Nagin failed to call for a mandatory evacuation and failed to use the buses. He also failed to move the buses to higher ground allowing them to be destroyed.

in his initial profanity laced tirade he called for the provision of 500 buses.

WTF more do you need to know. there wasn't just a lapse here, there was major negligence.

You want the poor, dead and downtrodden now to rise up and complain about where were the buses? Should they blog about it? Woudl that be sufficient? You are either being purposefully diffilcult or terminally dense.

If Bush had been in charge of the buses you would be howling. Instead you just move the thrid responder up to being the one primarily responsible for damage that the first two responders negligently let occur.

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
I think there should be an independent investigation complete with beheadings of the responsible leaders, at the state and federal levels.

And people wonder why cops get shot at in bad neighborhoods? Perfectly appropriate under these circumstances. Remember, the SS were police also. While blasting NWA and Ice T on your radio.

Right now I am having 10 million business cards printed.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Bush called Blanco and asked for a mandatory evacuation order 2 days before the hurricane hit.

I do not think that this is correct.

Nagin failed to call for a mandatory evacuation and failed to use the buses. He also failed to move the buses to higher ground allowing them to be destroyed.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This sounds bad. I'd like to know more.

If Bush had been in charge of the buses you would be howling.

Not if he were the mayor of New Orleans, I wouldn't.

And thanks for ignoring the rest of my post.

[Nut Case, Sensitive]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
...buses ... buses .... buses ... buses .... buses ... buses...buses ...

Nuts!

I'm the one with the one word mantra, turkey. Off my corner.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I do not think that this is correct.

He urged the people to get out and he called the governors on it. Blanco sat on her hands.


[i]CRAWFORD, Texas — President Bush, as he readied the federal government for a massive relief effort, on Sunday urged people in the path of Hurricane Katrina to forget anything but their safety and move to higher ground as instructed.

“We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities,” Bush said as the storm roared across the gulf toward New Orleans and other communities. “I urge all citizens to put their own safety and the safety of their families first by moving to safe ground.”

Separately, he spoke by phone with the governors of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This sounds bad. I'd like to know more.

What more do you need to know? there was a plan, there was capability and he did nothing. Can you honestly not see why this is essentially a tacit defence of his inaction? Why can't you admit he dropped the ball and people died?

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

And thanks for ignoring the rest of my post..

the rest of your post is meaningless. You criticise Bush for not coming in and helping the dead and dying and suffering but you won't criticise the guy who didn't give them an opportunity to not be in the position. Despite a plan and the means to effect it. You seem to want dead people or poor beleagured evacuees to rise up on the issue. I don't think they have the time or the means. they are trying to survive. And as to the question of what to do with them once they were on the buses, I would rather be alive and in a way station somewhere else then dead or trapped in the Superdome. If they were somewhere out of the zone, it would have made it much easier for the Feds to come in and help them.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Waht more do you need to know. The buses existed, over 250 of them, enough to ferry 16,000 people per run. I have posted pictures of them and they have been on respectable news sites.

there was an emergency plan in place calling for the use of the buses to evacuate the poor and those otherwise unable to leave of their own mode of transport. I have put up a cite to the plan.

the school board of the Orleans Parish also discussed the use of the buses for this very purpose in June of this year. I put up a cite to the cached minutes of the meeting, which show that the School Board had discussed the issue with the city.

Bush called Blanco and asked for a mandatory evacuation order 2 days before the hurricane hit.

Nagin failed to call for a mandatory evacuation and failed to use the buses. He also failed to move the buses to higher ground allowing them to be destroyed.

in his initial profanity laced tirade he called for the provision of 500 buses.

WTF more do you need to know. there wasn't just a lapse here, there was major negligence.

You want the poor, dead and downtrodden now to rise up and complain about where were the buses? Should they blog about it? Woudl that be sufficient? You are either being purposefully diffilcult or terminally dense.

If Bush had been in charge of the buses you would be howling. Instead you just move the thrid responder up to being the one primarily responsible for damage that the first two responders negligently let occur.

Ummm...Penske? Those 59 million Americans you keep carping about, when you're not repeating "buses"? They're not so sure anymore.

The good news for Bush is, well....he'd still beat Carter! But nobody else among his peers.

Unbelievably, there's an 8% of the population somewhere that believes the government response to have been "surprisingly organized". Probably Nagin's and Brown's immediate circles of friends.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Ummm...Penske? Those 59 million Americans you keep carping about, when you're not repeating "buses"? They're not so sure anymore.

The good news for Bush is, well....he'd still beat Carter! But nobody else among his peers.

Unbelievably, there's an 8% of the population somewhere that believes the government response to have been "surprisingly organized". Probably Nagin's and Brown's immediate circles of friends.

Who cares? He's not running for re-election. A real leader leads. A rank politician follows the polls. Like Clinton. And he got impeached.

Ultimately Bush's legacy will be Iraq as a stable force in the ME and a conservative Court for decades to come. It may take 5-10 years but when Roe goes down, there will be a collective cheer for W!!!

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Who cares? He's not running for re-election. A real leader leads. A rank politician follows the polls. Like Clinton. And he got impeached.

Great! Since it's irrelevant to Bush, I look forward to never hearing about the opinions of those 59 million ever again. Happy day!

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Great! Since it's irrelevant to Bush, I look forward to never hearing about the opinions of those 59 million ever again. Happy day!

Do you know how our system works. they registered their votes and now for the 4 year term he leads them. A proxy in effect. You losers have Kerry. And Chirac. How's that going?

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Do you know how our system works. they registered their votes and now for the 4 year term he leads them. A proxy in effect. You losers have Kerry. And Chirac. How's that going?

Veddy veddy well.

http://www.triplet.com/50-10_employm...orkingtime.asp

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Veddy veddy well.

http://www.triplet.com/50-10_employm...orkingtime.asp

I opened that thinking it was porn. What a let down.