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Old 08-18-2006, 09:30 AM   #4306
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In case y'all were wondering, I still don't read this board. Or post on it.
Translation: how come no one mentions the flower here on the serious board?
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:04 AM   #4307
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I am going on the record as predicting:

Lieberman (CT-R), as of January 1, 2007.
Why would he want to switch to the minority party?
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:16 AM   #4308
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It's friday. What do we talk about:

1) Hezbollah, rather than getting out, strengthening their position by paying off families in Southern Lebanon?

or

2) Iran, possibly gearing up for their August 22d surprise, smashing all the satellite dishes in the country and cutting off its people from the outside world?

or

3) "Dear Leader" about to formally announce to the world that its a nuclear power?

or

4) Some Carter [him again?] appointee improperly granting standing to the ACLU et al and putting us all at risk?
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:17 AM   #4309
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:23 AM   #4310
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4) Some Carter [him again?] appointee improperly granting standing to the ACLU et al and putting us all at risk?
We don't we just start having house to house searches for anyone we might think could be, or might know (whether inadvertantly or not) a terrorist?
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:38 AM   #4311
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We don't we just start having house to house searches for anyone we might think could be, or might know (whether inadvertantly or not) a terrorist?
Right, because that's what this case was all about.

Got it.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:48 AM   #4312
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Why would he want to switch to the minority party?
Show me your math. For now I will go Rasmussen's polling, who has a much better record than you on everything. He has it at 52-45-1; with 2 up in the air. Zogby's numbers are essentially the same, although last I saw he had 52-46-1, 1 undecided.

Those are with the CT seat as a Dem.

But seriously, let's see your math. I'm sure your polling is much more accurate and more insightful.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:54 AM   #4313
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Maybe not so uh oh

No explosives, despite the oh so obvious terroristness of the perpetrator:
  • A West Virginia airport terminal was evacuated Thursday after two bottles of liquid found in a woman's carry-on luggage twice tested positive for explosives residue, a Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman said.

    Chemical tests later Thursday turned up no explosives in the bottles, said Capt. Jack Chambers, head of the State Police Special Operations unit. The airport was reopened after nearly 10 hours.

    "It looks like there were four items containing liquids," said TSA spokeswoman Amy von Walter. A machine that security checkpoint screeners use to test for explosives registered positive results for two containers, and a canine team also got a positive hit, she said.

    The TSA screening looks for a range of explosives residue, some of which can be found on common household items, said TSA spokesman Darrin Kayser.

    Airport manager Larry Salyers said he was told the woman was a 28-year-old of Pakistani descent who had moved to West Virginia from Jackson, Mich.

    No charges were filed against the woman, who was taken from the airport by federal authorities at 5 p.m., Salyers said.

    The woman was cooperative, officials said.

    The woman's mother told the Associated Press that her daughter, who is four months pregnant and lives in Barboursville, W.Va., was targeted because of her nationality and Islamic headcover.

    "It was not only a false alarm, it was racial discrimination because there was nothing," Mian Qayyum said, refusing to name her daughter.

    "She just had water to drink because she is pregnant and she had a face wash that had a drop of bleach on it," Qayyum said from her home in Jackson.

    The FBI did not immediately return messages Thursday night seeking comment on the racial profiling allegations.

    A screener noticed a bottle in a woman's carry-on bag as she was going through security before her 9:15 a.m. flight to Charlotte, N.C., said Tri-State Airport Authority President Jim Booton.

    One bottle contained a gel-type facial cleanser, FBI spokesman Jeff Killeen said.

    "Anytime a prohibited item is brought to a checkpoint, then you are going to be immediately more interested in that bag," Kayser said.

    The woman had purchased a one-way ticket to Detroit by way of Charlotte on Wednesday, Salyers said.

    The flight was allowed to leave for Charlotte, and the terminal was evacuated at 11:25 a.m., officials said.

    Commercial airline service was suspended, and about 100 passengers and airport employees were ordered to leave the terminal, Booton said.

    Two airlines Comair and US Airways Express serve the airport.

    After the evacuation, many passengers decided to stay and wait it out.

    "We bought them pizza, soft drinks ... tried to make them comfortable as could be in this situation," Salyers said. "We had them in the parking lot, under trees, in conference rooms, the firehouse."

    U.S. authorities banned the carrying of liquids onto flights last week after British officials made arrests in an alleged plot to blow up U.S.-bound planes using explosives disguised as drinks and other common products.

    Joy and John Cloutre of Ulysses, Ky., were waiting to begin the first leg of their trip to the southeast Asian country of Brunei when the evacuation order came.

    Joy Cloutre told the Herald Dispatch of Huntington that her family didn't want her to leave because of terrorism in the region. "And then we don't even get out of Huntington without something like this happening."

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Old 08-18-2006, 11:56 AM   #4314
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Right, because that's what this case was all about.

Got it.
The case is about whether there are constitutional limits on the President's national defense powers. The President says there are not. This judge says there are. Personally, I am not going to expend too much energy on this particular decision, because as we all know, it is hardly the end of the story.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:57 AM   #4315
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Show me your math. For now I will go Rasmussen's polling, who has a much better record than you on everything. He has it at 52-45-1; with 2 up in the air. Zogby's numbers are essentially the same, although last I saw he had 52-46-1, 1 undecided.

Those are with the CT seat as a Dem.

But seriously, let's see your math. I'm sure your polling is much more accurate and more insightful.
Sometimes you are just painfully earnest.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:03 PM   #4316
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Sometimes you are just painfully earnest.

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Old 08-18-2006, 12:09 PM   #4317
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Right, because that's what this case was all about.

Got it.
Given that you've apparently forgotten what this country was founded on and what those boys in Iraq are currently dying to protect, I sincerely doubt you have a clue any more what this case was all about.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:41 PM   #4318
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The case is about whether there are constitutional limits on the President's national defense powers. The President says there are not. This judge says there are. Personally, I am not going to expend too much energy on this particular decision, because as we all know, it is hardly the end of the story.
Even the WaPo says the decision is a joke. And that's saying something.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:47 PM   #4319
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No explosives, despite the oh so obvious terroristness of the perpetrator:
  • A West Virginia airport terminal was evacuated Thursday after two bottles of liquid found in a woman's carry-on luggage twice tested positive for explosives residue, a Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman said. ...

    ...A machine that security checkpoint screeners use to test for explosives registered positive results for two containers, and a canine team also got a positive hit, she said.

    ...Airport manager Larry Salyers said he was told the woman was a 28-year-old of Pakistani descent who had moved to West Virginia from Jackson, Mich.

    ...was targeted because of her nationality and Islamic headcover.

    "It was not only a false alarm, it was racial discrimination because there was nothing," Mian Qayyum said, refusing to name her daughter.
    "Anytime a prohibited item is brought to a checkpoint, then you are going to be immediately more interested in that bag," Kayser said.

    ...one-way ticket to Detroit


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One way ticket. Muslim dress. Two positive readings.

We really need to ask ourselves - would it have been better if there actually WERE explosives.

As for her protestations about racial profiling - Boo fucking hoo.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:51 PM   #4320
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One way ticket. Muslim dress. Two positive readings.

We really need to ask ourselves - would it have been better if there actually WERE explosives.

As for her protestations about racial profiling - Boo fucking hoo.
I agree about her protestations.

And of course it wouldn't have been better if there were explosives. But if we are going to get our collective panties in the bunch over the initial conclusion that this was a terrorist incident, we also need to pay attention when it turns out not to be.
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