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Old 07-18-2005, 10:44 PM   #4321
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:45 PM   #4322
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I don't know what you drink. I'm just picking something I thought you enjoyed. Say Johnny Walker Green. I've been itching to try that stuff...
Bookers is fine. Or Woodford Reserve. I've never had JWG so that will work as well.

And the original bid was conviction, not indictment.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:47 PM   #4323
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I won't deny that there are Democrats who like to play this game, but it's Rove particular gameplan to drive the polarization. There's a reason things are worse in the last few years, and it has to do with the party in power. Oh, and being in power makes you just a little more responsible than the opposition.
Dissent. Things got really nasty during the election fiasco and only temporarily subsided from 9/11 to the beginning of the Iraq debate.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:51 PM   #4324
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:52 PM   #4325
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Umm, Susan McDougal ring a bell.
Yes. I take your point, and I'd have to read more about Miller (and remember more about McDougal) to try to distinguish the two, so that'll have to wait for another day.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:53 PM   #4326
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Sebby bets with his head...
Well, I'm not betting heavy here for good reason. I'd say its 50/50 that Fitzgerald comes back with an indictment. Gatti's right; Fitz will look like a real jackass for jailing Miller if he comes up blank. But on the other hand, how would he ever complete the investigation without forcing the reporters' testimony? He doesn't want to be the next Ken Starr getting run out of town on a rail.

I want a mini-Watergate, but anyone who knows me here knows I'm faithless, and cynical. But I don't mind buying a bottle of scotch. In my view, the forces of good have already won. A liar's been screwed in every orifice in the press and these self righteous bastards have ben brought down to Earth. Like I said, the "win" is in watching them twist. The indictment would be a grand slam, but I still think its a dicey bet... My thinking is Fitz issuees a scathing report either way, to cover his ass.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:00 PM   #4327
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My thinking is Fitz issuees a scathing report either way, to cover his ass.
Want to go double or nothing on this? Sebby, you seem to think that there has been a cover up here. At least where Rove is concerned, there hasn't. He disclosed his Cooper conversation via email (yes, there is a record) to the #2 guy at National Security shortly after it occured, the WH turned the email over to the SP over a year ago, and Rove has voluntarily waived any privilege and has testified to the grand jury. Is it possible that there is something that we don't know? Sure, but the evidence is far to thin at this point to justify all of the hysterics.
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Dissent. Things got really nasty during the election fiasco and only temporarily subsided from 9/11 to the beginning of the Iraq debate.
Which is shame. As I watched the Towers fall, with my labradours as my witnesses, I wondered aloud, if the liberal leadership of the Demo party (and their comrades throughout the socialist states of the Western half of the European continent and also their friends in the mythical land of Palestine that never really existed) would have the moral and intestinal fortitude to put aside the bitterly irrational partisan rancor that the Clinton years had spawned and stand strong in the long and hard battle that would be the War on Terrorism. Not for two weeks or two months but for the mission. Being tragically prescient and a terminal cynic, I doubted the resolve and unfortunately was rewarded with a gold star for my prognosticable skills. It was one award I wish I had not earned.

At this point, after a number of viscious attacks on my own person, rather than effective rebuttals of ideas, I feel soiled and put upon. Probably not unlike Juanita after she was raped by the impeached ex-President Clinton. There is a 7:30 Mass at my local Cathedral....I think I will go and light another candle for Mary Jo Kopechne and say a prayer for her unborn baby's soul.

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Old 07-19-2005, 12:16 AM   #4329
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I sent my letter of outrage, but it turned up missing. I suspect it is in Syria with Iraq's wmds, the functioning part of Terri Schiavo's brain, and Juanita Broaddrick's rape kit.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:37 AM   #4330
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The Terrorism "Experts"

Owner of terrorist intel company Juval Aviv (who says he's a consultant for Fox News and also a "special consultant" to Congress on terrorism issues) says a terror attack in the US is imminent, could be tomorrow but, we have AT THE MOST, 90 days.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html


You know, if these guys are so sure of this shit, they have to know at least *some* details (time/place please?) about the info he says he's hearing and my cynical side says they're holding back for $$ reasons, like this dude has a book out on how to stay safe in a terror attack. Another big attack in the US would land him millions. I'd pry stuff out of him in inhumane ways. Fucker.
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No attack politics started with the Borking incident
I'm always mystified when conservatives say this, because Bork was opposed on the basis of his (outre) beliefs, not on the basis of his personal peccadiloes. The word "borking" has come to signify something other than what happened to Judge Bork.
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:25 AM   #4332
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http://www.bakerlaw.com/files/tbl_s1...ef%20032305%20(Final).PDF

This is the amicus brief filed by 36 news organizations in the Cooper/Miller case. I'm no litigator, but when it says that "serious doubt" is cast on whether the Intelligence Identities Protection Act has been violated, I take notice.
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Dissent. Things got really nasty during the election fiasco and only temporarily subsided from 9/11 to the beginning of the Iraq debate.
Things were nasty during the election fiasco for good reason. But the ruling party has regularly found good reason to amp the polarization since then. They're doing it right now to keep Republicans together, since the Democrats alone can't do much in Congress without GOP help.
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:34 AM   #4334
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I'm always mystified when conservatives say this, because Bork was opposed on the basis of his (outre) beliefs, not on the basis of his personal peccadiloes. The word "borking" has come to signify something other than what happened to Judge Bork.
Ty the attacks were based on lies, distortions and defamatory schmears. That is a borking. Also, please explain the point of a demo senate staffer obtaining and leaking the list of movies he rented from his local video store in the first weeks after the appointment.

Here is an example of the lies and smear rhetoric from a man who while drunk drove his car into the drink and then cowardly left a young girl (who was carrying the lovechild of either him or his late brother?) to die a brutally horrific death while he went to his wealthy parents' home, napped, showered and initiated a lie-filled coverup (ie Senator Edward Kennedy) -- "Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, children could not be taught about evolution"

Is there any shame on the left?
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"Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, children could not be taught about evolution"

Is there any shame on the left?

Perhaps not, but plenty of accuracy.

Sorry to hear that your hero Eric Rudolph is going away for life. You must be depressed -- I know how you respect a man of action.
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