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Old 10-17-2005, 07:04 PM   #4321
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:06 PM   #4322
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It implies a certain monolithic group characteristic that allows you (us?) to NOT think about the group at all beyond that characteristic. It marginalizes them into pre-packaged bites. I think you'd find many more poets in that group these days than warriors, but the stereotype keeps you from ever discovering that, 'cuz you already know what you need to know, right?
Ridiculous. Like you can make a living as a poet in this day and age.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:07 PM   #4323
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I'll be honest, when I was a kid, I didn't even make the connection of "Warriors" to Native Americans. I thought it was a generic term.
I don't think this guy is a Native American, and he's the "Ultimate" Warrior:

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Old 10-17-2005, 07:09 PM   #4324
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I don't think this guy is a Native American, and he's the "Ultimate" Warrior:

This is a very frightening picture.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:13 PM   #4325
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I have heard that Sebastian is kind of pirate-like. A dashing, swishy pirate who stuggles daily to overcome the "pillage and rob" stereotypes with which he has been branded because of pervasive athletic team mascots. Today's pirates don't swing onto your ship with knives clutched in their teeth, and the last thing they want is to take your women. Today's pirates are more about dressing well and not wearing any underpants. And swinging back in forth on hammocks with other pirates.
Q: What do you call a Pirate with hardly any butt weight to hold him on the deck during a bad storm?

A: Girly-man overboard.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:14 PM   #4326
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I have heard that Sebastian is kind of pirate-like. A dashing, swishy pirate who stuggles daily to overcome the "pillage and rob" stereotypes with which he has been branded because of pervasive athletic team mascots. Today's pirates don't swing onto your ship with knives clutched in their teeth, and the last thing they want is to take your women. Today's pirates are more about dressing well and not wearing any underpants. And swinging back in forth on hammocks with other pirates.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:15 PM   #4327
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Q: What do you call a Pirate with hardly any butt weight to hold them on the deck during a bad storm?

A: Girly-man overboard.
This, from a drunkard who just spent the weekend in and about Philly strip malls...

Is your non-in-law life also similar to About Schmidt?
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:17 PM   #4328
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You do realize that the my first comment was a joke, don't you?
You know how I get in this mode. In fact, fuck you for making me explain that I get out of control.

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And I don't mean to be argumentative here or beat this into the ground, but I'm not sure what your conclusion is, because you didn't address my question about names like "Warriors," "Braves" and "Blackhawks". Let's divorce the names from the logos, shall we? Eliminate them completely or not? I'll be honest, when I was a kid, I didn't even make the connection of "Warriors" to Native Americans. I thought it was a generic term.
I think a term like "Warriors" by itself is generic, especially if the logo has a guy from coney island with a leather jacket and no shirt. However, if the team you're talking about is the Sioux Warriors and the logo is of a Native American scalping someone, how do you just chop off Sioux and the logo without it being a problem still? Maybe in the long run it wouldn't be that way. Maybe if you changed the logo somehow, it would be different. I don't think the 'Braves' and 'BlackHawks' are the same, though.

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I don't know. I think from what I have personally observed, the groups that aren't as numerous and powerful are actually more vocal about it. Which is understandable. Certainly I can understand the logo being offensive, and maybe it can't be divorced from the name in this case, but I don't know if you asked a majority of Native Americans if they find the term "Indians" offensive on its face, if they would. Maybe so. I just really don't know the answer to that question, because I don't share that experience and that heritage. I don't really have a problem with changing the name, if it came right down to it, but I also don't automatically assume that every name carries with it inherent baggage and disrespect.
Well, again, reducing a whole race of people to a mascot for your team to be worn on your hat seems somewhat offensive to me, especially given the lack of respect our country has historically shown those people. I can't speak for everyone and I'm not trying to, but that's why I gave you other examples. If you had been shit on since day one, you might not appreciate the people with all the money and power picking you to be their little cartoon character for their sports franchise mascot.

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..........the New Orleans Negros .....
maybe I'm playing to sterotypes, but if I'm an athletic director looking to schedule an early season tune up game, I'm going to sign up the Long Island Heebs before the NONs.
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This, from a drunkard who just spent the weekend in and about Philly strip malls...

Is your non-in-law life also similar to About Schmidt?
No. Normal life is more like Eraserhead. Which makes the in-law part all the more jarring.
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maybe I'm playing to sterotypes, but if I'm an athletic director looking to scedule an early season tune up game, I'm going to sign up the Long Island Heebs before the NONs.
Maybe I'm playing to stereotypes too, but have you negotiated your take of the game profits yet?

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If you had been shit on since day one, you might not appreciate the people with all the money and power picking you to be their little cartoon character for their sports franchise mascot.
However... the revenue from Foxwoods probably makes the existantial angst of having been once thought a savage a lil' easier to bear...

I gotta imagine that tribe is having a huge laugh watching angry white Archie Bunkers from the City piss away their paychecks week in week out.
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No. Normal life is more like Eraserhead. Which makes the in-law part all the more jarring.
Your head explodes and foam pours out, filling your home until it suffocates you, at which point a two headed Japanese woman starts singing to you?
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