Missing the Paigow (et al.) [sniff]

[tmdiva]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Huh? 50% of Death row was freed, or 50% of those people fortunate enough for there to be evidence and who asked for the tests were freed? the people wanting DNA tests probably have a higher percentage of "actually innocent" than the general prison population.

I remember reading an article about this a while back, and they said that a surprisingly high percentage of the guys who make noise about and eventually get DNA tests have their guilt confirmed. Maybe they eventually come to believe their own protestations of innocence?

tm

[dtb]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You are being lame. Way lame.

TM

I didn't say I don't wear it, just that it's not my favorite. It is convenient, I'll say that!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb

And I personally don't see a problem with getting all turned on and having to delay resolving the issue for a couple hours. But I may be weird.

I don't know who all you have on ignore, but apparently lots of those death row guys you know may be getting out soon. so just hold on.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't know who all you have on ignore, but apparently lots of those death row guys you know may be getting out soon. so just hold on.

If I am only pursuing romantic relationships with guys on death row, obviously I don't want actual sex.

Duh.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by tmdiva
I remember reading an article about this a while back, and they said that a surprisingly high percentage of the guys who make noise about and eventually get DNA tests have their guilt confirmed. Maybe they eventually come to believe their own protestations of innocence?

tm

Why not take the chance at getting a false negative? What do they have to lose?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by dtb
He is being lame. Way lame. Though thong underwear is not my favorite.

You prefer the comfortable safety of granny panties? Or are you drawing that important distinction between the thong and g-string?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
That sounds like fun. He's just a stick-in-the-mud. Can I play?

Originally posted by Fringey
If I am only pursuing romantic relationships with guys on death row, obviously I don't want actual sex.

Duh.

Would two like to be fixed up?

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Have it based at the Houston Crime Lab where an independent investigation's second report issued two weeks ago found

More evidence to support my beliefs on the death penalty -- namely, the only people who the state should execute are those I want executed. Namely:

One ex-gf from college
Most of the population of Glenview Sr. Public School, 1984-86
Kyle Farnsworth
Sergio Garcia

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Yes. Hell, he might think he has a freebie coming to him after 15 years (or whatever). I also think that if we was raped in jail, that might add to how screwed up he became. I also think that putting someone in a climate filled with criminals talking about crime would tend to make one (i) desensitized to it and (ii) pretty good at it.

TM

You get the freebie if you kill someone and you've previously been convicted of killing THAT person. [Sister Mary Ignatius] This is very simple. We here in Hollywood have already explained this to you. Why do you find it so complicated? [/Sister Mary Ignatius]

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What a great day. You return, and the Buttafuocos agree to meet with Amy Fisher on tv.

• Joey Buttafuoco, who was jailed for statutory rape following the 1992 shooting, said he planned to ask Fisher to explain her actions.
  
  "I've been asked about a million times by Mary Jo, 'Why did Amy shoot me?' I was never able to get that answer," said Buttafuoco, now 49.
  
  "There's going to be a lot of shocking revelations, and that's why I'm excited to sit down to do this," he said.
  
  The Buttafuocos moved to California and divorced in 2003. Mary Jo, who remains partially paralyzed from the shooting, is engaged.
  
  Joey Buttafuoco, who has remarried, was sentenced in March 2004 to a year in jail and five years' probation after pleading guilty to felony insurance fraud. In August, he pleaded not guilty to charges that he violated probation by possessing ammunition.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

Did I miss the all-hands meeting where we all decided it was okay for the A-listers to slap the dick out of NFH's mouth? Please, people -- have some pride.

[Fugee]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
So you can make some universal declaration about how the police, the justice system and society as a whole are all systematically criminally racist - and somehow this makes a case?

I hope the "criminally" part is the exception rather than the rule but I think if we are brutally honest, the rest is -- how does Sebby put it? -- a foul truth.

So when and why did Harry Belafonte get on the ultra-conservative shit list? With the resolutioners filling up the gym lately, I got stuck on the treadmill in front of the FoxNews TV a couple times and saw some talking heads ranting about him like he was Osama bin Fonte.

There must be something screwy in the political water in Minnesota. First we had the Wrestler. Now we have a self-proclaimed vampire running for governor.

And off the political topic....

Does anyone else have recurrent dreams where it is the setting or location that recurs, not the actual dream? This weekend I had a dream that took place on a golf course; when I woke up I realized I've had other dreams that are at the same golf course but are otherwise different. The funny thing is that as far as I can remember, this "dream" golf course is not a real one I'm familiar with; it isn't even a particularly nice course.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
If I were a TV exec, I'd come up with a new show based on the simple premise that the criminal justice system is a rigged deck wherein hundreds of innocents get railroaded and go to jail. I would not need to worry about casting, however, as it would be a documentary.

Translation: Flower has a DUI.

The dirty little secret of the criminal justice system is that while cross-racial eyewitness identifications are particularly unreliable (as the boom in DNA exonerations is now proving), all cases built around victim identifications are inherently troubling and always have been, even though intuitively we believe this is the best, most reliable form of testimony. Both the prosecution and the defense bar were complicit in telling juries that eyewitness testimony was better than "circumstantial evidence" whenever they had it on their side, and juries believed it.

I suppose if you were inclined you could say that a DA who prosecutes a D who was positively, honestly, and erroneously identified by the victim is "railroading" the D, or that the jury of twelve peers who believe the victim are suckers, but I don't see it that way. DAs don't get all insufferably smug about their jobs because they wantonly convict the innocent; on their worst day they're operating on a good faith mistaken belief the D is the perp because a cop or victim told them so. Like there was a better way to know in 1982?

It's fucked up that women who are raped by a person of another race are occasionally wrong about whodunnit. I'm sure they pretty much have the decency to feel like shit when it turns out the wrong guy did eight years; I assume they'd rather the real perp did that time instead, thank you very much. On the other hand, what the fuck was the DA supposed to do when there was an eyewitness ID in the days before DNA? Some cop or judge or DA is a racist because they obtained a conviction in 1982 based on a victim identification? It's not like they made that shit up on purpose.

I'm glad there are DNA exonerations, but they're hardly evidence of "railroading" or the inherent racism of the cops, DAs, judges or juries. (Besides, it's unnecessary: If you want evidence of the inherent racism of juries or cops, just talk to them for five minutes.) Meanwhile, the judges and DAs are pretty much doing what the situation calls for --- prosecuting the person IDed as the perp under the best available technology. That's not a broken system; that's a system that works. I'm personally pleased the technology's changing, but the same defense attorneys touting these DNA exonerations will go to court tomorrow to exclude inculpatory DNA evidence as categorically unreliable.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If I am only pursuing romantic relationships with guys on death row, obviously I don't want actual sex.

Confidential to FBetties: Depending on your definition of "actual sex," when you ask to be assigned a pen pal, be sure to ask for one who doesn't have a release date. From today's advance sheets; very unhappy endings all around; strong stomach required.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Fugee
I hope the "criminally" part is the exception rather than the rule but I think if we are brutally honest, the rest is -- how does Sebby put it? -- a foul truth.

So when and why did Harry Belafonte get on the ultra-conservative shit list? With the resolutioners filling up the gym lately, I got stuck on the treadmill in front of the FoxNews TV a couple times and saw some talking heads ranting about him like he was Osama bin Fonte.

There must be something screwy in the political water in Minnesota. First we had the Wrestler. Now we have a self-proclaimed vampire running for governor.

And off the political topic....

Does anyone else have recurrent dreams where it is the setting or location that recurs, not the actual dream? This weekend I had a dream that took place on a golf course; when I woke up I realized I've had other dreams that are at the same golf course but are otherwise different. The funny thing is that as far as I can remember, this "dream" golf course is not a real one I'm familiar with; it isn't even a particularly nice course.

For a woman, recurrent dreams of a golf course typically means that you want to get all of your holes into more frequent use. An unknown course probably means at least one of the holes you want to get going maybe hasn't gotten much, if any, play.

different dreams on the same course is easy. = different partners. In the dreams do you ever see yourself playing from the "ladie's tee?"

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Fugee
There must be something screwy in the political water in Minnesota. First we had the Wrestler. Now we have a self-proclaimed vampire running for governor.

I actually would find such candor in Ohio kind of refreshing, since most of our politicians suck.