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07-19-2005, 12:15 PM
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#4336
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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For Ty and His Boy Josh
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Perhaps not, but plenty of accuracy.
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If you believe that then you have exposed yourself as a doctrinaire leftwing nut and I thereby understand the level of kool aid intoxication that victimizes you such that you lack the moral and intestinal fortitude to disavow the racists, murderers, rapists and other felons and liars at the head of the evil cabal that you call a Demo Party.
When I was in Church yesterday praying for Mary Jo Kopechne I remembered that the Bible says that I must not hate my ideological enemies and so said a prayer for them too. That they come to their joint and several senses.
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Sorry to hear that your hero Eric Rudolph is going away for life. You must be depressed -- I know how you respect a man of action.
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Nice try but no. Unlike the liberals I don't disrespect people of faith or the culture of life, but I do believe in the rule of law. Mr. Rudolph broke the law and his actions were properly addressed. If only Bill Clinton had respected the rule of law rather than obstructing the same and justice could have been served for Juanita. Raped. Or if Ted Kennedy had so respected the rule of law rather than obstructing it and justice could have been served for Mary Jo. Manslaughtered.
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07-19-2005, 12:44 PM
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#4337
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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For Ty and His Boy Josh
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Things were nasty during the election fiasco for good reason. But the ruling party has regularly found good reason to amp the polarization since then. They're doing it right now to keep Republicans together, since the Democrats alone can't do much in Congress without GOP help.
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Ty, you have become completely and utterly blind. This is going on on both sides. If you don't want to recognize that the DEMs are as much if not more to blame, there is no point in discussing this further.
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07-19-2005, 12:47 PM
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#4338
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Restoring honor and dignity to the White House!
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It's not leaks. It has now reached the level of common knowledge. I will wager 1 months sponsorship that no one will be convicted of a crime under that statute for the alleged Plame outing. Would you like to take that bet?
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Someone will be convicted/plead guilty to a crime, but I would not be willing to limit it to that particular statute. If you're fine with that, we're on.
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07-19-2005, 12:56 PM
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#4339
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Serenity Now
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Restoring honor and dignity to the White House!
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Someone will be convicted/plead guilty to a crime, but I would not be willing to limit it to that particular statute. If you're fine with that, we're on.
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That's a little broad, isn't it? Someone will be convicted of something?
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07-19-2005, 12:59 PM
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#4340
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Moderator
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Originally posted by sgtclub
That's a little broad, isn't it? Someone will be convicted of something?
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Seems pretty reasonable to me--half of the issue is that the WH didn't come clean right away. Sounds rather familiar, in fact.
Besides, Fitzgerald was picked by the WH, unlike Starr.
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07-19-2005, 01:14 PM
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#4341
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World Ruler
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For Ty and His Boy Josh
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Dissent. Things got really nasty during the election fiasco and only temporarily subsided from 9/11 to the beginning of the Iraq debate.
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Things got really nasty in the South Carolina Repulican primaries. Ask John McCain what he thinks of Karl Rove.
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07-19-2005, 01:26 PM
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World Ruler
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For Ty and His Boy Josh
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Nice try but no. Unlike the liberals I don't disrespect people of faith or the culture of life, but I do believe in the rule of law. Mr. Rudolph broke the law and his actions were properly addressed.
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He was just exercising his rights under the 2d Amendment, no?
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07-19-2005, 01:27 PM
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World Ruler
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Originally posted by sgtclub
That's a little broad, isn't it? Someone will be convicted of something?
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I'll limit the "someone" to Rove and/or Scooter.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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07-19-2005, 01:27 PM
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#4344
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Serenity Now
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Seems pretty reasonable to me--half of the issue is that the WH didn't come clean right away. Sounds rather familiar, in fact.
Besides, Fitzgerald was picked by the WH, unlike Starr.
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Perhaps in a vacuum, but the bet came up in reference to the daily poundings of Rove, and apparently no one is willing to take that bet.
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07-19-2005, 01:31 PM
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#4345
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Perhaps in a vacuum, but the bet came up in reference to the daily poundings of Rove, and apparently no one is willing to take that bet.
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I will bet that the phrase "daily poundings of Rove" soon takes on new meaning in the federal prison system.
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07-19-2005, 02:03 PM
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#4346
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
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Restoring honor and dignity to the White House!
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Perhaps in a vacuum, but the bet came up in reference to the daily poundings of Rove, and apparently no one is willing to take that bet.
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Because it's a sucker bet. All we know is the merits case, and it's pretty weak (although see today's WSJ describing a memo circulated within WH, noted as classified, that identified Plame.
It's unlikely anyone will be convicted under the covert agent act, probably because of the knowledge requirement. But there's always perjury. I mean, ask Penske about the difference between lying (like Rove did) and lying to a grand jury.
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07-19-2005, 02:30 PM
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Serenity Now
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Restoring honor and dignity to the White House!
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Because it's a sucker bet. All we know is the merits case, and it's pretty weak (although see today's WSJ describing a memo circulated within WH, noted as classified, that identified Plame.
It's unlikely anyone will be convicted under the covert agent act, probably because of the knowledge requirement. But there's always perjury. I mean, ask Penske about the difference between lying (like Rove did) and lying to a grand jury.
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If it's a sucker bet, than people should admit that this is a political show rather than some nefarious plot to out Plame.
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07-19-2005, 02:30 PM
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#4348
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Serenity Now
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I'll limit the "someone" to Rove and/or Scooter.
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I don't know much about Scooter, but I'll take the Rove bet in a heartbeat.
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07-19-2005, 02:35 PM
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#4349
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Moderator
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Originally posted by sgtclub
If it's a sucker bet, than people should admit that this is a political show rather than some nefarious plot to out Plame.
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Except that it was a nefarious plot . . . just not an illegal one.
I forget, are you in the "as long as it's legal, it's moral" camp with Penske?
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07-19-2005, 02:35 PM
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#4350
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Moderator
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't know much about Scooter, but I'll take the Rove bet in a heartbeat.
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BTW, it's all over around 9:01 tonight. there will be more interesting things for the press to focus on.
I guess Judith Miller won't get out until the first Monday in October.
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