All Hank, all the time.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by ironweed
I must have been thinking of another war. What's the one where we're fighting one or more insular, indigenous guerrilla groups who blend in with and receive support from the generally hostile civilian population? It's the one that's sort of dragging along with no clear or achievable objective in sight, mounting casualities and less and less support among the voting public. I remember something about a helicopter, a rooftop, hearts and minds, but it's all a bit of a blur.

See, your problem is that you've got the war all mixed up with an Oliver Stone movie.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
It depends on your definition of "suspected terrorist."

Some appear to believe that it means "Muslim, from a Muslim country, or descended from the above."


eta: How they figure this stuff out from a phone number is a mystery to me. kick-ass software, i suppose.

It is beginning to sound like some would define it as "voted for a Democrat."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
No fear of the feds listening in on my calls to my Grandma is what's got me thinking that certain elements in the Republican Party ought to go take a refresher course on what makes America great.

We can fly all around the world drinking scotch, and not worrying about people trying to kill us- and when we get where we're going the people have put in the kind of toilets we're used to and they learned to speak English? that's what America means to me.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
We can fly all around the world drinking scotch, and not worrying about people trying to kill us- and when we get where we're going the people have put in the kind of toilets we're used to and they learned to speak English? that's what America means to me.

I don't doubt that for a minute, Hank.

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
It depends on your definition of "suspected terrorist."

Some appear to believe that it means "Muslim, from a Muslim country, or descended from the above."

Again, until the Jews or Christians start declaring "death to the non-believers" and start slaughtering innocent civilians all over the world, that definition is about as close as it gets.

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
Without a warrant, it's nobody's fucking business if she is.

Your concern for "Grandma the Terrorist" over the security of this Nation is duly noted.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Your concern for "Grandma the Terrorist" over the security of this Nation is duly noted.

As is your lack of regard for "Citizen Grandma."

[SlaveNoMore]

No wonder they were concerned. Fucking A:

self-described peace activist responsible for the diversion of a London-to-Washington flight Wednesday acted bizarrely for hours, made references to al Qaeda and hijack training flights, and was restrained by two passengers after she urinated in the aisle.

Catherine C. Mayo, 59, a Vermont woman who also lives part time in Pakistan, was charged yesterday in federal court with interfering with a flight crew.

United Flight 923 was forced to make an emergency landing at Boston's Logan International Airport under escort by two military jets.

"She's got some very serious mental health problems," said Page Kelley, Mrs. Mayo's attorney, who described her client as "just barely lucid."

According to an affidavit and passenger accounts, Mrs. Mayo began pacing the plane from the front to aft lavatory and asked a flight attendant, "Is this a training flight for United Flight 93?" -- the flight hijacked on September 11, 2001, that crashed into a Pennsylvania farm field.

Mrs. Mayo demanded to speak with an air marshal, saying the contents of her bag would be of interest. Her bag contained a screwdriver, body lotion, several cigarette lighters and a bottle of water. The affidavit did not say how she smuggled the items on board, despite being screened twice at London's Heathrow Airport.

When confronted by the captain, Mrs. Mayo made a reference to bomb assembly, saying, "There are six steps to building some unspecified thing."

"She made reference to being with people associated with two words," the affidavit said. "She stated that she could not say what the two words were because the last time that she had said the two words she had been kicked off a flight in the United Arab Emirates."

The captain ordered her restrained, and the passengers and a flight attendant tackled her and placed her hands in plastic cuffs.

Officials in the United Kingdom and the U.S. are on heightened alert after dozens of British citizens were arrested last week, accused of plotting to smuggle liquid explosives aboard trans-Atlantic flights.

Mrs. Mayo told passengers she was an undercover reporter testing security to see whether she could sneak restricted items on board.

As a columnist for the Daily Times of Pakistan, Mrs. Mayo criticized President Bush -- calling him "a president not elected by the people"-- and the war in Iraq. "The folksongs of the 1960s will never be written again because of President George Bush. He has hampered the liberties of my country in the name of September 11. Songs now can only talk of patriotism they cannot mention peace," she wrote.

Passengers initially assumed the men who restrained Mrs. Mayo were federal air marshals but yesterday said they were passengers recruited by flight attendants who provided them with handcuffs.
"They were asked to be on the alert in case we need you," said Joan Bartko, a passenger who was traveling with her family.

Mrs. Mayo "took down her slacks and started taking down her underwear, and that's when they got her. They were just passengers on the plane who immediately helped," Mrs. Bartko said.

They initally reported the screwdriver. Why did they eliminate that fact from the follow-up reports?

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
As is your lack of regard for "Citizen Grandma."

"Citizen Grandma"? Is she in France?

And if so, why should I care if the NSA is listening in?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Again, until the Jews or Christians start declaring "death to the non-believers" and start slaughtering innocent civilians all over the world, that definition is about as close as it gets.

Similarly, "suspected Mafia member" should be the same as "Italian, or of Italian descent." At least until the Mafia opens to books to Koreans and Russians.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
No wonder they were concerned. Fucking A:



They initally reported the screwdriver. Why did they eliminate that fact from the follow-up reports?

The also initially reported notes about al Qaeda.

Were the initial reports accurate?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by taxwonk
It is beginning to sound like some would define it as "voted for a Democrat."

Let's not overstate it. Some Rs are willing to see Lieberman voters merely as terrorist-sympathizers.

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
Similarly, "suspected Mafia member" should be the same as "Italian, or of Italian descent." At least until the Mafia opens to books to Koreans and Russians.

This doesn't bother me - and my mom's maiden name is practically Genovese.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
This doesn't bother me - and my mom's maiden name is practically Genovese.

Yes, but you've always been a bit of a whack-job.

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
The also initially reported notes about al Qaeda.

"She made reference to being with people associated with two words," the affidavit said. "She stated that she could not say what the two words were because the last time that she had said the two words she had been kicked off a flight in the United Arab Emirates."

Were the initial reports accurate?

Pretty much, yep.