Fashion Board 12-09-03 through 1-08-04

[Gattigap]

Concur with whoever said diet docs have, at best, a loose grasp of what the fuck they're talking about.

Additional evidence can be found here.* I don't personally recall if Weight Watchers existed back in 1974, and cannot say with confidence whether these recipe cards are merely spoofs. If legit, however, may I just say blechhh. How did people eat that crap?


* Spree -- Weight Watchers recipe cards from 1974. Nothing truly gross, except in the culinary sense.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Snoop Dogg is extreme because he's doing fucking AOL commercials for christsakes. He is a caricature of who he once was and is clearly only interested in cashing in. I think he's a joke (but that is neither here nor there). [I will note that he is a sell-out much like the Stones are sell outs for selling their songs to companies to be used in ads, though.] TM

Snoop's commercials, at least last night were such complete sell out, that is was at least more original than the Stones or the others. I mean, he sold out well.

Plus, he gets a pass since he may have had the funniest moment on Stern. Comes on 1 time and talks about how he controls his whores (he claims to be a pimp) by hitting them with a shoe.
He comes on the next time, and tells Stern he is managing his stable over email. Howard asks " how do you keep them in line, you can't hit them with a shoe?"

Snoop "If necessary I shoot them some megahertz over the net"

I know its misogny, but it was funny for misogny.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Physical consummation is not really the test (though it surely used to be moreso that it is now); the test is whether one ever actually engaged in or participated in the marriage (there is some magical term of art there that I am missing, but that is the gist).

A Catholic in a bad marriage has four permissible options, not all of which necessarily apply.

• Separation. When any two baptized Christians marry, a sacramental marriage occurs, even in a civil ceremony. The couple is free only to separate or reconcile; no remarriage to others is permissible. Remarriage inside or outside the church basically forfeits reception of sacraments. See 1 Corinthians 7:10-11.
  
• Annulment. Given that sacramental marriages are insoluble, this is a judicial finding that no sacramental marriage occurred. The terms usually used are defect of mind or character in one spouse that prevented a valid marriage from forming. Consummation is irrelevant (yay!).
  
• Pauline Privilege. Where two non-Christians or one Christian and one non-Christian marry, the union is not sacramental, but is considered a "natural" marriage. If one later converts to Christianity, the Christian may invalidate the marriage upon a proper showing of abandonment. See 1 Corinthians 7:12-16. For example, if the non-believing spouse refuses to live with the Christian one, the non-believer can be permitted to withdraw from the marriage, leaving the Christian partner free to remarry. The Pauline Privilege does not apply when two baptized people marry and later one of them gives up on being Christian.
  
• Petrine Privilege. When a Christian marries a non-Christian, the marriage can be dissolved by Rome for "just cause." This is extremely rare, as it requires actual Vatican action --- this power is not delegated to the nice, nerdy guy at the diocesan offices; you have to plead your case to the Pope himself. You also had better have a good Catholic lined up to marry you; the Holy Father wants you to get it right this time, beeyotch.

Note that I use Christian instead of Catholic because the Roman Catholic Church regards those baptized in other denominations to be in the same category for these purposes.

Catholics among us who married non-Catholic spouses might recall the difference between a "permission" (to marry a non-Catholic) and a "dispensation" (to marry a person "of no creed"; boy, that's a nice way of putting it). Which form is used makes a difference in your remedies outlined above.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
A Catholic in a bad marriage has four permissible options, not all of which necessarily apply.

• Annulment. Given that sacramental marriages are insoluble, this is a judicial finding that no sacramental marriage occurred. The terms usually used are defect of mind or character in one spouse that prevented a valid marriage from forming. Consummation is irrelevant (yay!).

My mother had her marriage to my father annulled on the no sacramental marriage ground. I was not pleased, though I feel better after reading that she didn't retroactively make me illegitimate at age 28.

[Dave]

Originally posted by dc_chef
On a related note, I received five e-mails today and an interoffice phone call alerting me to Ms. Spears short-lived marriage. Once I found out that it was not a shotgun wedding, I was fine with it.

The guy, at least, now has just about the ultimate answer for a friendly game of 'can you top this?' -- "hey, I was married to Britney Spears for about 36 hours".

And I bet that'll go over real well with the ladies at SE Louisiana U. His life is good, even if he shares a name with George from Seinfeld.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Catholic options.

Nevada options (from some website):

"NEVADA ANNULMENTS dissolve the marriage as though it never occurred. Court appearances are required in very few cases. Annulment decrees are regularly addressed by the judge within 2-3 weeks of submission of signed papers. To review Nevada Annulment Statutes in their entirety go to leg.state.nv.us/nrs/nrs-125.html. One of the largest providers of annulments in Nevada is Nevada Divorce & Paralegal Services.

You may qualify for a fast Nevada annulment if:

You were married in Nevada, even if both spouses reside in other states; or,
You or your spouse resides in Nevada; or,
You are serving in the military and your home state of record is Nevada, even if you are out of state;
You qualify by meeting one of more of the Qualifications listed:

a marriage that was void at the time performed (such as blood relatives, bigamy),
a marriage that lacked consent (such as intoxication, insanity, underage),
or a marriage based on some kind of fraud. Fraud generally involves one party misrepresenting some material fact to the other party, and that other party having relied on that misrepresentation as a basis for the marriage. To obtain this, you must have immediately separated from your spouse as soon as you learned of the fraud. NRS 124.340. This is true for lack of consent circumstances as well. The longer the marriage continued from the time consent was possible or fraud was discovered, the less likely the court will be to grant an annulment. "

[LessinSF]

My first year. Her second attempt at first year. Private, Catholic school wants her to succeed because she filled two quotas - a minority and blind.

Problem was she slept through class, didn't study, wasn't terribly smart, and had a personality even her own seeing-eye dog hated. I don't think I have ever, to this day, laughed as hard as I did when I saw her dog walk her into the corner of a wall, like where a corridor comes into a room. The dog kept going unimpeded, while she went SMACK!

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Concur with whoever said diet docs have, at best, a loose grasp of what the fuck they're talking about.

Additional evidence can be found here.*

I hope someone forwarded this link (and the one to Cate's Garags Sale Finds) to the folks at Fear Factor. My nomination fot the next episode is the Iceberg Ring with Tuna Salad

[leagleaze]

So I was driving down one of the major roads here in the burg, either 83 or 15, I forget which one. And I passed a sign that actually made me wince.

It had a picture of a baby and said something like: When lawyers look at people they don't see people, they see lawsuits. (It was snappier then that of course.)

It was done by the local medical folks who are upset at the fact that tort reform hasn't gone as far as they want it to here.

[mmm3587]

Britney: Is the grounds for annulment that one of them was to drunk to consent to marriage? I know that some initial news reports suggested that she was drunk out of her mind. All the other stuff posted here (didn't consumate, didn't know each other that well) don't seem to be grounds for annulment in Nevada.

Law school: my school didn't have much of an attendance policy, and I took advantage of that. Also, I really, really enjoyed the fact that all those assholes who talked all the time and thought they were the shit shut the hell up after the got their grades. I, for one, loved blind grading.

Atkins: I've seen a lot of people lose a ton of weight on Atkins and put most of it back on afterwards. It makes more sense to develop long term healthy eating and exercise habits that relying on drastic alterations to diet like that.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Additional evidence can be found here.* I don't personally recall if Weight Watchers existed back in 1974, and cannot say with confidence whether these recipe cards are merely spoofs. If legit, however, may I just say blechhh. How did people eat that crap?


* Spree -- Weight Watchers recipe cards from 1974. Nothing truly gross, except in the culinary sense.

I see now. That's how you get people to lose weight, tell them they have to eat fish balls. Gack - that looks like barf on a shingle.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

Note that I use Christian instead of Catholic because the Roman Catholic Church regards those baptized in other denominations to be in the same category for these purposes.

Catholics among us who married non-Catholic spouses might recall the difference between a "permission" (to marry a non-Catholic) and a "dispensation" (to marry a person "of no creed"; boy, that's a nice way of putting it). Which form is used makes a difference in your remedies outlined above.

Well it's about time. We've been waiting here all day for your answer. Well at least some of us have. Well maybe not, but at least well, OK, whatever.

So you're saying that Protestants are NOT Christian?

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
The reason that caffeine is verboten on Atkins is that caffeine causes your liver to secrete sugar into your bloodstream. The idea behind the Atkins Diet is to maintain regular blood sugar levels.

Originally posted by paigowprincess
cite please. seriously. i am a caffeine addict and have been since eighth grade.

Drinking caffeine in large amounts as coffee over a short period of time has been shown to raise blood sugar. Caffeine does this by enhancing the effect of two hormones (adrenaline and glucagon). These two hormones release stored sugar from the liver resulting in high blood sugar.

In my law school class there was a former race car driver, a former bodybuilder, a couple of models, a former orderly at a psych ward, and a close, personal friend of a legendary rock band. A former Miss California was a year or two ahead of me. She wore deal-killing sweaters like the girl in The Brothers McMullen, so I wasn't upset about having no shot whatsoever.

In torts class, one woman knew the victim in one of the cases. She got upset, the professor was mortified, the class came to a standstill.

I was all about volunteering to avoid being called on. Drop an opinion once in a while and you don't have to know any facts. Sadly, this only works in law school.

and Paris and Prince Michael? Surely they cannot still be living with that sick fuck? Hell, how are they living with him before the accusations? Anyone can tell he is insane using the legal definition of not being able to discern reality from fantasy land. Those kids are fucked.

Originally posted by LessinSF
My first year. Her second attempt at first year. Private, Catholic school wants her to succeed because she filled two quotas - a minority and blind.

Problem was she slept through class, didn't study, wasn't terribly smart, and had a personality even her own seeing-eye dog hated. I don't think I have ever, to this day, laughed as hard as I did when I saw her dog walk her into the corner of a wall, like where a corridor comes into a room. The dog kept going unimpeded, while she went SMACK!

Translation: she wouldn't bang me either.