Still Hating America.

[Replaced_Texan]

Damn.

SEN. COBURN: Well, I believe there's consequences to mistakes. I was quoted in the paper saying I think this has been handled in a very incompetent manner. And I believe most people -- I don't care which side of the aisle they are -- would agree with that.

U.S. attorneys' reputation, that were involved, has been harmed. The confidence in U.S. attorneys throughout this country has been damaged. The reputation of the Attorney General's Office has been tarnished and brought into question.

I disavow aggressively any implication that there was a political nature in this. I know that's the politics of the bloodsport that we're playing. I don't think it had anything to do with it. But to me, there has to be consequences to accepting responsibility. And I would just say it's -- Mr. Attorney General, it's my considered opinion that the exact same standards should be applied to you in how this was handled.

It was handled incompetently, the communication was atrocious, it was inconsistent. It's generous to say that there were misstatements; that's a generous statement. And I believe you ought to suffer the consequences that these others have suffered. And I believe the best way to put this behind us is
your resignation.

I'm very curious if this is one of those things that Bush is going to be irrationally stubborn on. I can't imagine that he'll have much support, but it doesn't seem that he cares about support much.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I was channeling my inner sebby when I wrote that.

That was far more coherent than my inner self has ever been.

Thank God somebody has him. Feed him, will you?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
One prominent Republican describing the testimony this way, as "watching a clubbing of [a] baby seal."

Awwww. Pooor wittle Alberto.

Still, that's a great line.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Are you calling Adder "horribly wrong". If so,

2.

And we were playing so nice today and all. Well, fine then. This:

The viability and other bright line tests are useless. I much prefer talking with people who are either: (1) completely pro-choice, saying it's a matter between doc and woman (Sebby); or (2) someone who says "I know it's complicated but still, I am against killing fetuses at all" (total pro-life). ... Now, I could be with a pro-lifer or pro-choicer, as long as they weren't big proponents of the dreaded line tests.

This pretty fucking stupid. Both (1) and (2) are bright lines. Viability, which at least has the potential to be a fluid concept as medicine advances, is not.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Fringey's question was about episiotomies, which are to prevent uneven tearing of the vaginal opening, not the cervix. So dilation of the cervix doesn't matter. Vagina, cervix, uterus -- 3 different things. I hope for your sake you know where the Dolores is.

I was just wanting to show off my knowledge and use the word implement.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by LessinSF
On a second trimester D&E, the woman goes in the day before and has implements inserted to dilate the cervix overnight, then the D&E is done the next day.

www.gynocam.com? Not a valid source, Less.

Spree: OBVIOUSLY, if it exists, not safe for work.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Adder
And we were playing so nice today and all. Well, fine then. This:



This pretty fucking stupid. Both (1) and (2) are bright lines. Viability, which at least has the potential to be a fluid concept as medicine advances, is not.

While I agree, you do realize the rest of the country views viability as the bright line test, and that's never going to change.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by LessinSF
I was just wanting to show off my knowledge and use the word implement.

"Implement," bah. "Speculum." Now that's gynoknowledge.

My buddy had one in high school. I'd like to say my girlfriend and I did something with it because that would be something I could tell a grandchild. Sadly, someone stole it a keg party before I had the right set of circumstance arise.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Damn.
I'm very curious if this is one of those things that Bush is going to be irrationally stubborn on. I can't imagine that he'll have much support, but it doesn't seem that he cares about support much.

I think that the quotes Ty provided earlier from White House aides strongly indicate that Gonzales is gone. Their gums wouldn't flap like that if Bush was going to save him.

S_A_M

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Damn.
I'm very curious if this is one of those things that Bush is going to be irrationally stubborn on. I can't imagine that he'll have much support, but it doesn't seem that he cares about support much.

I can't even watch him anymore. He's so fucked if you dosed him, he'd hallucinate reality.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I think that the quotes Ty provided earlier from White House aides strongly indicate that Gonzales is gone. Their gums wouldn't flap like that if Bush was going to save him.

S_A_M

2.


Baby seal. Heh.

eta: I don't think he watched.

• President Bush Pleased with Attorney General's Testimony
  
  President Bush was pleased with the Attorney General's testimony today. After hours of testimony in which he answered all of the Senators' questions and provided thousands of pages of documents, he again showed that nothing improper occurred. He admitted the matter could have been handled much better, and he apologized for the disruption to the lives of the U.S. Attorneys involved, as well as for the lack of clarity in his initial responses.
  
  The Attorney General has the full confidence of the President, and he appreciates the work he is doing at the Department of Justice to help keep our citizens safe from terrorists, our children safe from predators, our government safe from corruption, and our streets free from gang violence.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0070419-5.html

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
"Implement," bah. "Speculum." Now that's gynoknowledge.

My buddy had one in high school. I'd like to say my girlfriend and I did something with it because that would be something I could tell a grandchild. Sadly, someone stole it a keg party before I had the right set of circumstance arise.

Outed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h1AzpB_soI .

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
2.


Baby seal. Heh.

eta: I don't think he watched.

• President Bush Pleased with Attorney General's Testimony
  
  President Bush was pleased with the Attorney General's testimony today. After hours of testimony in which he answered all of the Senators' questions and provided thousands of pages of documents, he again showed that nothing improper occurred. He admitted the matter could have been handled much better, and he apologized for the disruption to the lives of the U.S. Attorneys involved, as well as for the lack of clarity in his initial responses.
  
  The Attorney General has the full confidence of the President, and he appreciates the work he is doing at the Department of Justice to help keep our citizens safe from terrorists, our children safe from predators, our government safe from corruption, and our streets free from gang violence.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0070419-5.html

Remember, they make their own reality.

Damn, when did the Republican's start getting all the good drugs?!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Outed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h1AzpB_soI .

It's a bicycle pump, I tell you.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
2.


Baby seal. Heh.

eta: I don't think he watched.

• President Bush Pleased with Attorney General's Testimony
  
  President Bush was pleased with the Attorney General's testimony today. After hours of testimony in which he answered all of the Senators' questions and provided thousands of pages of documents, he again showed that nothing improper occurred. He admitted the matter could have been handled much better, and he apologized for the disruption to the lives of the U.S. Attorneys involved, as well as for the lack of clarity in his initial responses.
  
  The Attorney General has the full confidence of the President, and he appreciates the work he is doing at the Department of Justice to help keep our citizens safe from terrorists, our children safe from predators, our government safe from corruption, and our streets free from gang violence.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0070419-5.html

Hmph. I knew the baby seal analogy was a bad sign. The seal hunt ended yesterday, and it didn't go well for the hunters.