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Old 12-13-2006, 05:24 PM   #4426
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I think your ticket says "I may be photographed."
I'm sure that's the case, but that's less of a waiver, particularly in a case like Bartman's, than the ones people signed to appear in Borat. And Bartman has certainly suffered more than any of the people who appear in Borat.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:25 PM   #4427
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Michael Moore could have also hired a director, and then maybe his films would be watchable.

Just sayin'.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:26 PM   #4428
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Yay!! I would like to be secretary-treasurer.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:28 PM   #4429
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Good point. I allowed my inner plaintiff lawyer to speak for a second, and was wrong. The releases may be artfully and carefully drafted, but they themselves do not lie. http://www.slate.com/id/2151990/
Ha. That's rich. It says in the very first paragraph that the footage will be used for a documentary-style film. And they go on to say that they are hoping to reach a young adult audience by using entertaining content and formats. Verrry misleading. If you are mislead by that, you are either an idiot or you're too focused on the fact that you're going to be in a movie or both.

So, I guess you're looking for a waiver that says, "I agree that if I act like a dumbass I won't bring a lawsuit once everyone else realizes how much of an asshole I really am or once I realize how much money they've made off of the fact that I look like a dumbass."

I suspect the waiver you're looking for would spell out everything for everyone in huge block letters so that there would be no chance of misunderstandings or hurt feelings,* thus making the project impossible to undertake without the use of actors. Well, hey. We're back to your point about him not being able to make a film like this at all. Looky there.

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*And I'm sure you would argue that the people who signed, without reading, the abundantly clear waiver that they too were duped and it shouldn't be allowed.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:29 PM   #4430
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Yay!! I would like to be secretary-treasurer.
I would like to help your organization in the role of Honorary Unsolicited Fellatio Recipient.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:29 PM   #4431
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What about fans in sports arenas? They're made to look like asses on camera all the time. And what of Steve Bartman? Did he give his permission to be made to look like an ass for all time (at least in Chicago)?
If you ever get bored at a Cub's game, read the fine print on the back of the ticket.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:33 PM   #4432
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This post reeks of desperation.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:34 PM   #4433
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Ha. That's rich. It says in the very first paragraph that the footage will be used for a documentary-style film. And they go on to say that they are hoping to reach a young adult audience by using entertaining content and formats. Verrry misleading. If you are mislead by that, you are either an idiot or you're too focused on the fact that you're going to be in a movie or both.

So, I guess you're looking for a waiver that says, "I agree that if I act like a dumbass I won't bring a lawsuit once everyone else realizes how much of an asshole I really am or once I realize how much money they've made off of the fact that I look like a dumbass."

I suspect the waiver you're looking for would spell out everything for everyone in huge block letters so that there would be no chance of misunderstandings or hurt feelings,* thus making the project impossible to undertake without the use of actors. Well, hey. We're back to your point about him not being able to make a film like this at all. Looky there.

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*And I'm sure you would argue that the people who signed, without reading, the abundantly clear waiver that they too were duped and it shouldn't be allowed.
A better waiver would read: "We are going to make a movie in which you may unwittingly play a role. The purpose of this film is to expose unpleasant or offensive views that you hold in order to both profit at the box office and raise consciousness about these issue with the general public. The down side for you could be loss of friends and/or employment in addition to general humiliation." Then to make sure the person understands the waiver, it should be rapped to him by Jay-Z while being written in large block letters as a tattoo across his penis.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:36 PM   #4434
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This post reeks of desperation.
I'm not sure I get your point.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:36 PM   #4435
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I just want to keep this re: line going. It's one of the best.

(Ty, you really need to see that movie)
I am amenable to seeing the movie, though my DVD player just stopped working. Anyone have any thoughts about what to get in a new one, other than a HDMI jack?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:37 PM   #4436
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Though his is permanent.

For those of you who aren't watching the two hour season finale of The Biggest Loser tonight (I can't help it, I got sucked in), the Sundance Channel is premiering tonight One Punk Under God (spree: sound) a, er, program, let's just leave it at that, about Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker's son, Jay. After his parents' church fell apart in the 80s, Bakker dropped out of school, hit the bottle, got a ton of tattoos, sobered up, rediscovered God, and became a preacher. He's now spreading the word from a Brooklyn storefront.

There's an article about him here (spree: Mther Jones article. May end up blowing up some people's computers.)
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On a good Sunday, Jay Bakker’s storefront church in Brooklyn may attract as many as 30 worshippers. That’s alright with Bakker, the founder and pastor of Revolution, a nondenominational congregation that might be described as an anti-megachurch. Intimacy trumps grandeur in this “church for people who have given up on church.” It got its start in an Atlanta bar, luring wayward skaters and punks with a gospel of “ultimate grace,” a come-as-you-are theology that holds that God loves you, combat boots, body art, and all. Bakker, a pierced and heavily tatted 31-year-old, takes a casual yet passionate approach to his role, delivering sermons with titles such as “Nobody Likes a Selfish Bastard,” “Jesus: A Friend to Porn Stars,” and “Galatians Baby!”
I presume that Sundance got releases from everyone in the program.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:44 PM   #4437
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If you ever get bored at a Cub's game, read the fine print on the back of the ticket.
I snuck in. Did I give my consent to be filmed by doing so?

And getting back to the film, there's an air of spontaneity that comes from using "real" people as opposed to actors. Bruce Springsteen could have used an actress to play the fan he picks from the audience to dance on stage with him in the "Dancing in the Dark" video, but it wouldn't have been nearly as exciting.
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Though his is permanent.

For those of you who aren't watching the two hour season finale of The Biggest Loser tonight (I can't help it, I got sucked in), the Sundance Channel is premiering tonight One Punk Under God (spree: sound) a, er, program, let's just leave it at that, about Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker's son, Jay. After his parents' church fell apart in the 80s, Bakker dropped out of school, hit the bottle, got a ton of tattoos, sobered up, rediscovered God, and became a preacher. He's now spreading the word from a Brooklyn storefront.

There's an article about him here (spree: Mther Jones article. May end up blowing up some people's computers.)

I presume that Sundance got releases from everyone in the program.
I think that article could be describing a lost track from "Separation Sunday."
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:45 PM   #4439
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Though his is permanent.

For those of you who aren't watching the two hour season finale of The Biggest Loser tonight (I can't help it, I got sucked in), the Sundance Channel is premiering tonight One Punk Under God (spree: sound) a, er, program, let's just leave it at that, about Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker's son, Jay. After his parents' church fell apart in the 80s, Bakker dropped out of school, hit the bottle, got a ton of tattoos, sobered up, rediscovered God, and became a preacher. He's now spreading the word from a Brooklyn storefront.

There's an article about him here (spree: Mther Jones article. May end up blowing up some people's computers.)

I presume that Sundance got releases from everyone in the program.
I read an article on this guy - the storefront location for the church (the article I read said it started in one in Atlanta and now has opened another "branch" in Brooklyn) is in a bar in boht Atlanta & NY), despite that he's a recovering alcoholic. Ballsy!

Spoiler on events that happened: His mom is gravely ill from cancer; Jay will be traveling to her North Carolina home for tender visits. His dad, now remarried and with a new TV ministry, is estranged from him -- a rift Jay will make great strides repairing. And after several years' devotion to his church, he will be uprooted when wife Amanda, a young woman with fluorescent red hair and a beatific smile, is accepted by New York University for its doctoral program in psychiatry.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:48 PM   #4440
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I snuck in. Did I give my consent to be filmed by doing so?

And getting back to the film, there's an air of spontaneity that comes from using "real" people as opposed to actors. Bruce Springsteen could have used an actress to play the fan he picks from the audience to dance on stage with him in the "Dancing in the Dark" video, but it wouldn't have been nearly as exciting.
2. It's like when we thought PPNYC was a sock the posts didn't have such an edge, you know?
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