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01-29-2007, 02:49 AM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
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What purpose does it serve?
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
have done in every war I can think of.
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Happened in the war against Serbia and pissed me off then also. I appreciate politician's need to play politics, but not when soldiers lives are on the line.
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01-29-2007, 08:30 AM
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#4442
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by Spanky
He is completely intertwined with the plan. The Plan and he are a package.
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Since I missed his testimony, maybe you could quote what he said to this effect?
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Generals come up with plans and strategies. That is what they do.
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To my understanding, there is a little more in the job description than that. Check into it.
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...the resolution serves no purpose?
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Democracy is a bitch. You start to see why all those people we're exporting it to don't want it.
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01-29-2007, 10:15 AM
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#4443
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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What purpose does it serve?
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Originally posted by Spanky
Do you think Patreus is the right man for the job? If you do, what do you think he would do if he didn't have Bush directing him?
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I'm not at all sure. He may be too much of a yes man. I understand elements of his testimony contradict what he taught at West Point. On the other hand, he may be doing what he needs to in public.
But his patented question of "Where does this end?" remains the key one.
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01-29-2007, 10:17 AM
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#4444
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally posted by Spanky
He is completely intertwined with the plan. The Plan and he are a package.
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Strangely enough, I can't find a report of him saying this. Instead, I do find this, in the general's answers to advance policy questions put to him by the Senate in advance of his hearing:
- What role, if any, did you play in the development of the new Iraq strategy recently announced by the President?
I met with the Secretary of Defense a couple of days after he took office and before he left for his first trip to Iraq, and we discussed the situation there during that meeting. We subsequently talked after his trip, as well. I also talked to the CJCS several times during this period, noting that a population security emphasis, in Baghdad in particular, was necessary to help the Iraqis gain the time/space for the tough decisions they faced and discussing the general force levels that were likely to be required. As the strategy was refined, I talked on several occasions to LTG Ray Odierno to confirm that his troop-to-task analysis required the force levels that are part of the new strategy, and I relayed my support for those levels to the CJCS and the Secretary. I also supported the additional emphasis on the advisory effort and the additional resources for the reconstruction effort (both in terms of funding and personnel for PRTs and governmental ministry capacity development).
It's pretty obvious from this that General Petraeus does not try to take credit for the President's decision to escalate. Which is not surprising, since the decision was well reported before his appointment was announced.
Your argument made for nice political theater, though.
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01-29-2007, 11:08 AM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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What purpose does it serve?
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
6 years into this, it doesn't say much for your abilities to think that your jokes are still on this level. No offense.
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Your continued jokes about Chappaquiddick (not to mention penske's FDR jokes and the Hillary photoshops) leave you little room to comment in this regard. No offense.
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01-29-2007, 12:41 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Report, please
I spent the end of last week doing some serious, um, networking in Vegas. Have I missed much?
Yours,
Sidd (Poor, groggy, but strangely happy).
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01-29-2007, 12:51 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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What purpose does it serve?
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Your continued jokes about Chappaquiddick (not to mention penske's FDR jokes and the Hillary photoshops) leave you little room to comment in this regard. No offense.
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dissent. when I tie in Teedy and Chappaquiddick it is always in a clever way.
As to Penske, while his photoshops seem dull witted on the surface understand he is moving forward with something very big and those posts are laying the groundwork. for now I can only advise you to wait.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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01-29-2007, 01:47 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Report, please
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I spent the end of last week doing some serious, um, networking in Vegas. Have I missed much?
Yours,
Sidd (Poor, groggy, but strangely happy).
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Take it to the FB!
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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01-29-2007, 03:06 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Report, please
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Sidd Finch
Have I missed much?
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The Democrats voted unanimously for a General none of them agree with.
Hillary - as predicted - has started throwing her husband under a bus, while John Kerry - as expected - continued to throw his own country under a bus.
The media lavished a ton of attention on a DC moonbat rally, which was about 10% of the size of the pro-life rally one week earlier that received little to no media attention at all.
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01-29-2007, 03:09 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Report, please
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The media lavished a ton of attention on a DC moonbat rally, which was about 10% of the size of the pro-life rally one week earlier that received little to no media attention at all.
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You know, I have really seen/heard/read very little about it. Then again, I would have actively tried to avoid it.
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01-29-2007, 03:13 PM
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But Slave pays an extra $7.99 a month for that.
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You know, I have really seen/heard/read very little about it. Then again, I would have actively tried to avoid it.
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Apparently there was blanket coverage of it on The Outrage Channel.
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01-29-2007, 03:20 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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But Slave pays an extra $7.99 a month for that.
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Originally posted by ironweed
Apparently there was blanket coverage of it on The Outrage Channel.
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when you get home, give your children a belt and let them whip themselves. This will be helpful later when they must decide whether to raise your grandchildren Shia or Sunni.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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01-29-2007, 03:30 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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But Slave pays an extra $7.99 a month for that.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
when you get home, give your children a belt and let them whip themselves. This will be helpful later when they must decide whether to raise your grandchildren Shia or Sunni.
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As long as they don't have to raise them as Papists.
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01-29-2007, 03:56 PM
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But Slave pays an extra $7.99 a month for that.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
when you get home, give your children a belt and let them whip themselves. This will be helpful later when they must decide whether to raise your grandchildren Shia or Sunni.
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Which one gets more Federal holidays?
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01-29-2007, 04:01 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Report, please
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The Democrats voted unanimously for a General none of them agree with.
Hillary - as predicted - has started throwing her husband under a bus, while John Kerry - as expected - continued to throw his own country under a bus.
The media lavished a ton of attention on a DC moonbat rally, which was about 10% of the size of the pro-life rally one week earlier that received little to no media attention at all.
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Hmmm. I wonder why? Maybe because America's fucking sick and tired of hearing about abortion from religious loonies for the past 30 years?
There's one silver lining to this war - its caused people to start considering the lives of actual people as opposed to embryos and two month old gestating cells for once.
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