Politics As Usual

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
P.S. What in Wilson's report was WRONG? or SLANTED? In order to give your position any credibility, you'll at least have to identify _something_. Does the CIA or White House now disagree with Wilson's assessment in any meaningful way?

S_A_M

While I'm crushed beneath a pile of paper for the second day in a row - the NRO has my proxy

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Only if you see no harm at all in the use of the FMA for political purposes.

What are Kerry and Edwards using their non-votes for?

To allow them to campaign rather than serving the interests of their state?

To avoid staking out a position on a devisive issue?

To avoid excommunication?

Or something less pernicious I can't immediately put my finger on.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
the NRO has my proxy

when has that not been the case?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
And even more recently, a group of white people dragged a black man around until he died. And this is the country club, slave et. al. believe provides moral leadership to the world?

any black people kill whites lately? of course we have problems. the prisons statistics cited earlier are a problem. we have a very bad problem regarding racial division in this country.

I do believe we are better than we were 40 years ago, and in most regards better than we were 20 years ago. I am not a black man, so I can't speak from the perspective of a black man, of course, but it seems better to me.

in the middle east there are people who hate Jews. They feel Israel is a monster that is treating the Palistinians inhumanely. There are people strapping bombs to very young men who then walk on buses filled with moms and kids and blow themselves up, to kill Jews. Maybe its ultimately the Israelis' fault, certainly this forum won't reach agreement on fault, but we all would agree this violence is more pronounced than 5 years ago or 10 years ago.

This same violence is spreading to Europe generally and France in particular. If the ratio of Jews/muslims was 5 to 1 (instead of the reverse) might there be more hate crime Jews on Muslims? Maybe. But that isn't the current ratio in France.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What are Kerry and Edwards using their non-votes for?

To allow them to campaign rather than serving the interests of their state?

To avoid staking out a position on a devisive issue?

To avoid excommunication?

Or something less pernicious I can't immediately put my finger on.

Kerry is always using his non-vote. Isn't he the most absent senator over the past several years?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
While I'm crushed beneath a pile of paper for the second day in a row - the NRO has my proxy

I've since discovered that instead of asking you for your sources, it's easier just to read Andrew Sullivan and follow the links.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What are Kerry and Edwards using their non-votes for?

To allow them to campaign rather than serving the interests of their state?

To avoid staking out a position on a devisive issue?

To avoid excommunication?

Or something less pernicious I can't immediately put my finger on.

All of the above? You can accuse them of all of those things, but you can't really accuse them of supporting the FMA by failing to show up to add to the margin against it.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
but you can't really accuse them of supporting the FMA by failing to show up to add to the margin against it.

doesn't speak much for their leadership abilities, though, does it?

"I'm not so against it that I'm going to vote no on principal."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
All of the above? You can accuse them of all of those things, but you can't really accuse them of supporting the FMA by failing to show up to add to the margin against it.

Can any of you explain the 99-1 vote on the FCC fines. It can't be political cowardice. Teddy isn't afraid to vote his own way, plus the Iraq war vote had like 10 "nos" didn't it?

seriously, any explanation?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
doesn't speak much for their leadership abilities, though, does it?

"I'm not so against it that I'm going to vote no on principal."

Presumably their superior leaderships are reflected by the fact that -- unlike the current resident of the White House -- they wouldn't have dragged the Constitution through the mud to stage this vote.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Can any of you explain the 99-1 vote on the FCC fines. It can't be political cowardice. Teddy is afraid to vote his own way, plus the Iraq war vote had like 10 "nos" didn't it?

seriously, any explanation?

I haven't followed the story, but club has my proxy on this one.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Can any of you explain the 99-1 vote on the FCC fines. It can't be political cowardice. Teddy isn't afraid to vote his own way, plus the Iraq war vote had like 10 "nos" didn't it?

seriously, any explanation?

Of course it is political cowardice. If this was not an election year, it would have had substantially more opposition, but no one wants to be deemed soft (no pun intended) on "porno" after the superbowl debacle, given the outrage of the electorate.

The Iraq war had 25 no votes.

[sgtclub]

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...154917,00.html

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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Of course it is political cowardice. If this was not an election year, it would have had substantially more opposition, but no one wants to be deemed soft (no pun intended) on "porno" after the superbowl debacle, given the outrage of the electorate.

The Iraq war had 25 no votes.

Doesn't explain Teddy, doesn't explain the Cali nuts

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
And even more recently, a group of white people dragged a black man around until he died. And this is the country club, slave et. al. believe provides moral leadership to the world?

And where local residents joked that he got what he deserved for trying to steal the chain.