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Old 09-14-2004, 07:16 PM   #4471
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:23 PM   #4472
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I can't remember if I posted here or not, but during the first half of Bush's speech at the convention, I kept repeating: "Sounds great, but how the fuck are you going to pay for it?"

Dunno, but it looks like it's gonna cost [Dr. Evil voice] Three TRILLLLLION Dollars! [/Dr. Evil voice]

This might* get him to stop inflated references to how many "tax increases" Kerry "voted for" over a 20 year Senate career, as I think that even that is less than this amount.



*Maybe. Still no guarantee, though.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:42 PM   #4473
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It was my understanding that Russia had a 13% flat tax. Incorrect?

That's correct. But sometimes they apply it more than once -- tax levies being like Russian potato chips.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:43 PM   #4474
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A further post from Ruy Texeira addresses the point Bilmore made:
  • How is it possible for samples of RVs to suddenly have too many Republican identifiers? Aren't voters just shifting their party identification?

    It is certainly possible that we gone from, say, a 4-5 point Democrtic lead in party ID to a 4-5 point Republican lead in the space of the last month. But color me skeptical about this 8-10 point swing in a few short weeks.

    A better explanation for this sudden shift in poll samples, in my view, is that when the political situation jazzes up supporters of one party, they are more likely to want to participate in a public opinion telephone poll and express their views. An increased rate of interview acceptance by that party’s supporters would then skew the sample toward that party without the underlying distribution having changed very much, if at all.

    In this case, the Republican convention, coming on the heels of the Swift Boat controversy, may have helped raise political enthusiasm among Republican partisans, leading to more interview acceptances and a disproportionate number of Republicans in recent samples.

    Do I know this for sure? No, I don't, because we lack direct evidence that this is happening, just as we lack direct evidence that individual voters are suddenly and massively shifting their party allegiance. But I do know which of these explanations I find more plausible and consistent with other evidence about the general stability of party ID.
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:43 PM   #4475
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"Surest way to a man's heart is through his stomach?"

"Dammit, I think I buttoned the wrong one again."
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:47 PM   #4476
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"Dammit, I think I buttoned the wrong one again."
"If I just hold my jacket closed right so, it'll cover up my open fly. Duggurnit, I can't believe ma didn't zip me up when she dressed me this morning".
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Old 09-14-2004, 07:57 PM   #4477
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:57 PM   #4478
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Proof that John Kerry is committed to creating jobs.
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:24 PM   #4479
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his supposed religion
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Nice touch.
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I almost stuk an asterisk there. Ididn't mean Islam was a supposed religion. i meant that a man who moves a few thounsand heavily armed men who are likely to be bombed, into a religion's most holy shrine is arguably not a strong believer of that religion. "Supposed" going to Sadr, not Islam.
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Old 09-14-2004, 09:29 PM   #4480
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If only it was Clinton... I'd make the comment " I gotta make sure to tell the 12 year old blond about my intern program, and she should call when she turns 18."
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:22 PM   #4481
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MemoGate

Seems to me that MemoGate was the best thing that could have happended to Kerry. Now the right, and most importantly, the rightleaning blogs, have a real target to bring down and, if they are successful, it will be a bigger accomplishment than a Bush victory. Should be interesting to see if Rather can withstand this one.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:25 PM   #4482
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A further post from Ruy Texeira addresses the point Bilmore made:
I think that they, like people here, start from the wrong assumption - that the unwashed (non-lawyers) generally have a developed set of reasonings about politics - and then assume that a political label is the first level of those reasonings.

I think that more people simply don't GAF, (give a . . . .), and answer that question based on candidates, (again, "i'm voting for B, and so I'm an R") and that answer seems to have changed drastically lately - even enough to explain the switch that results in a "polling disparity".

In short, you guys are screwed.
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:27 PM   #4483
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Carl?! Carl!!? Write this down:

Don't order the fuckin' burritos in Seattle!

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Old 09-14-2004, 10:33 PM   #4484
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Proof that John Kerry is committed to creating jobs.
So, Soros sucks, eh?

(Money DOESN'T equal socially-aimed power based on politics?)
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Old 09-14-2004, 10:34 PM   #4485
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Seems to me that MemoGate was the best thing that could have happended to Kerry. Now the right, and most importantly, the rightleaning blogs, have a real target to bring down and, if they are successful, it will be a bigger accomplishment than a Bush victory. Should be interesting to see if Rather can withstand this one.
Unfortunately for Kerry, he's provided no info, and so no target, and so Rather is going to be his surrogate. As Rather goes, so goes the vacuous windsurfer.
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