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09-14-2004, 07:16 PM
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#4471
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At the Great Altar of Passive Entertainment
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Caption Contest
"Surest way to a man's heart is through his stomach?"
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I'm done with nonsense here. --- H. Chinaski
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09-14-2004, 07:23 PM
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#4472
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Southern charmer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At the Great Altar of Passive Entertainment
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Bilmore's Sacred Cow
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I can't remember if I posted here or not, but during the first half of Bush's speech at the convention, I kept repeating: "Sounds great, but how the fuck are you going to pay for it?"
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Dunno, but it looks like it's gonna cost [Dr. Evil voice] Three TRILLLLLION Dollars! [/Dr. Evil voice]
This might* get him to stop inflated references to how many "tax increases" Kerry "voted for" over a 20 year Senate career, as I think that even that is less than this amount.
*Maybe. Still no guarantee, though.
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I'm done with nonsense here. --- H. Chinaski
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09-14-2004, 07:42 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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a shrill neo-con
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It was my understanding that Russia had a 13% flat tax. Incorrect?
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That's correct. But sometimes they apply it more than once -- tax levies being like Russian potato chips.
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09-14-2004, 07:43 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,084
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A further post from Ruy Texeira addresses the point Bilmore made:
- How is it possible for samples of RVs to suddenly have too many Republican identifiers? Aren't voters just shifting their party identification?
It is certainly possible that we gone from, say, a 4-5 point Democrtic lead in party ID to a 4-5 point Republican lead in the space of the last month. But color me skeptical about this 8-10 point swing in a few short weeks.
A better explanation for this sudden shift in poll samples, in my view, is that when the political situation jazzes up supporters of one party, they are more likely to want to participate in a public opinion telephone poll and express their views. An increased rate of interview acceptance by that party’s supporters would then skew the sample toward that party without the underlying distribution having changed very much, if at all.
In this case, the Republican convention, coming on the heels of the Swift Boat controversy, may have helped raise political enthusiasm among Republican partisans, leading to more interview acceptances and a disproportionate number of Republicans in recent samples.
Do I know this for sure? No, I don't, because we lack direct evidence that this is happening, just as we lack direct evidence that individual voters are suddenly and massively shifting their party allegiance. But I do know which of these explanations I find more plausible and consistent with other evidence about the general stability of party ID.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-14-2004, 07:43 PM
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#4475
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,873
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Originally posted by Gattigap

"Surest way to a man's heart is through his stomach?"
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"Dammit, I think I buttoned the wrong one again."
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09-14-2004, 07:47 PM
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#4476
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Theo rests his case
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: who's askin?
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Caption Contest
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
"Dammit, I think I buttoned the wrong one again."
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"If I just hold my jacket closed right so, it'll cover up my open fly. Duggurnit, I can't believe ma didn't zip me up when she dressed me this morning".
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Man, back in the day, you used to love getting flushed, you'd be all like 'Flush me J! Flush me!' And I'd be like 'Nawww'
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09-14-2004, 07:57 PM
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#4477
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally posted by Gattigap
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"I'm supposed to pat my head at the same time?!"
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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09-14-2004, 08:57 PM
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#4478
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Proof that John Kerry is committed to creating jobs.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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09-14-2004, 09:24 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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a shrill neo-con
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Originally posted by Hank
his supposed religion
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Nice touch.
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P.ofC.
I almost stuk an asterisk there. Ididn't mean Islam was a supposed religion. i meant that a man who moves a few thounsand heavily armed men who are likely to be bombed, into a religion's most holy shrine is arguably not a strong believer of that religion. "Supposed" going to Sadr, not Islam.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-14-2004, 09:29 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corner Office
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Originally posted by Gattigap

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If only it was Clinton... I'd make the comment " I gotta make sure to tell the 12 year old blond about my intern program, and she should call when she turns 18."
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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09-14-2004, 10:22 PM
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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MemoGate
Seems to me that MemoGate was the best thing that could have happended to Kerry. Now the right, and most importantly, the rightleaning blogs, have a real target to bring down and, if they are successful, it will be a bigger accomplishment than a Bush victory. Should be interesting to see if Rather can withstand this one.
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09-14-2004, 10:25 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
A further post from Ruy Texeira addresses the point Bilmore made:
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I think that they, like people here, start from the wrong assumption - that the unwashed (non-lawyers) generally have a developed set of reasonings about politics - and then assume that a political label is the first level of those reasonings.
I think that more people simply don't GAF, (give a . . . .), and answer that question based on candidates, (again, "i'm voting for B, and so I'm an R") and that answer seems to have changed drastically lately - even enough to explain the switch that results in a "polling disparity".
In short, you guys are screwed.
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09-14-2004, 10:27 PM
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#4483
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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Caption Contest
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Originally posted by Gattigap
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Carl?! Carl!!? Write this down:
Don't order the fuckin' burritos in Seattle!
Last edited by bilmore; 09-14-2004 at 10:35 PM..
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09-14-2004, 10:33 PM
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#4484
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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So, Soros sucks, eh?
(Money DOESN'T equal socially-aimed power based on politics?)
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09-14-2004, 10:34 PM
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#4485
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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MemoGate
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
Seems to me that MemoGate was the best thing that could have happended to Kerry. Now the right, and most importantly, the rightleaning blogs, have a real target to bring down and, if they are successful, it will be a bigger accomplishment than a Bush victory. Should be interesting to see if Rather can withstand this one.
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Unfortunately for Kerry, he's provided no info, and so no target, and so Rather is going to be his surrogate. As Rather goes, so goes the vacuous windsurfer.
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