Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Adder]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Ten years ago, my favorite radio station didn't have to beep out the word "shit" or similar words appearing in some songs. Now they do it regularly. It's not a major intrusion in my life, but, then again, the people who forced the change didn't listen to the Clash, Pearl Jam, or Eric Burdon then and they don't now.

It's not really relevant to your point, but most of these artists record a clean version for radio play, rather than require the station to bleep the song. And it was certainly going on ten years ago.

Five years ago, it would have been inconcievable that Jose Padilla would be locked up in prison for months without access to counsel or without being charged with a crime. I realize this isn't my daily life. But then, Jose isn't free to answer this question for himself.

It still is nearly inconcievable. But it is a rather common reaction to countries attacted by terrorists. Hopefully, the supreme court will step in and set things straight. But I worry more and more about a court stacked with Ashcroft clones.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by bilmore
This is a cool analogizing experience at face. Substantively, this is total crap.

Did you really say this?

I think he's describing the public perception of the far right and far left, and you (like I) are thinking of the actual right and left. The characterizations of the far right have gotten so out of hand that people end up calling National Socialists a part of the right. Its a cute way of disassociating them from the left in the public mind, but its only Socialism with hate thrown in. And hate ain't a characteristic of the Right.

In sum, as he later noted, he's talking about the publicly-accepted characterizations.

On another note, there is a post on the other board where some columnist made the same point that Gatti's guy did, but on a broader scale. Basically saying that the Right needs to take its territory back and shove the pretenders back into their own camp and let them stew among their soul mates. For the record, I am not that columnist (and didn't completely agree with everything the guy wrote, particularly regarding the new needs of our nation).

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[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I go away for a few hours and this place turns into the FB. OK, I outa here again. Go nuts, y'all. I expect to see everyone naked when I come back.

They won't let me do naked here while I'm at work, but funny how Sports Illlustrated flies under the nazi radar.

Go ahead and edit if you want Slave.

[Say_hello_for_me]

I'll put 1% odds that the real midwest October Surprise is a last-minute preelection arrest of Mayor Richard M. Daley, one of his 3 top lieutenants, and/or Governor Rod Blagoyevich. How much damage would this do to Kerry and co.?

Today one of Daley's top Bridgeport guys was indicted in a rapidly-expanding bribe probe, though the guy retired years ago. How close was he? He had enough clout to send an army of Chicago Democrats out to a suburban county (Will Co., think Joliet, or mebbe a Joliet Prison of Blues Bros. fame). The army got his son elected States Attorney as a Republican.

Don't think the U.S. Attorney won't do it? This guy indicted the last Republican governor a few months ago. Speculation in some parts of Chicago is beginning to build.

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[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
There's this story of the famine-hit village where people are hungry, stores are empty, and months of winter beckon.

The dem pulls out the seed stock and cook it up. All the people caught short because of poor planning, lost jobs, and dead crops are thrilled. Everyone eats.

Then, next spring, everyone dies.

Right.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by bilmore
There's this story of the famine-hit village where people are hungry, stores are empty, and months of winter beckon.

The dem pulls out the seed stock and cook it up. All the people caught short because of poor planning, lost jobs, and dead crops are thrilled. Everyone eats.

Then, next spring, everyone dies.

Is that a verbose way of saying give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life?

If so, I think all those out of work from outsourced jobs should just learn to fish.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Adder
It's not really relevant to your point, but most of these artists record a clean version for radio play, rather than require the station to bleep the song. And it was certainly going on ten years ago.

I've been too busy to respond substantively today to the porn thread, but does anybody remember what Tipper Gore was famous for before "The Kiss."

[Adder]

Originally posted by Not Me
What is the downside to believing in God? If you believe and you are wrong, you're dead so you aren't aware you were wrong. And while you were alive, you had hope that you could enter the after life and see all your dead loved ones.

Hmm... being a hopeless cynic without any principles at all??

[Not Me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I've been too busy to respond substantively today to the porn thread, but does anybody remember what Tipper Gore was famous for before "The Kiss."

Mental illness?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Adder
Hmm... being a hopeless cynic without any principles at all??

Are you implying that without a belief in god you can't have principles? If not, what the hell are you saying?

[Adder]

Originally posted by bilmore
This is a cool analogizing experience at face. Substantively, this is total crap.

Did you really say this?

Yeah... I mean, as if there is anything remorely like a far left in this country....

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Adder
Yeah... I mean, as if there is anything remorely like a far left in this country....

???? Have you ever heard Ralph Nader speak? Michael Moore?

[Adder]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I've been too busy to respond substantively today to the porn thread, but does anybody remember what Tipper Gore was famous for before "The Kiss."

She's an idiot. Your point is?

[Adder]

Originally posted by Not Me
Are you implying that without a belief in god you can't have principles? If not, what the hell are you saying?

I'm not implying anything. I am saying that if you believe in god simply because you see no downside in not believing in god, you have no principles.

Ad(thought that was pretty clear the first time)der

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Adder
It still is nearly inconcievable. But it is a rather common reaction to countries attacted by terrorists. Hopefully, the supreme court will step in and set things straight. But I worry more and more about a court stacked with Ashcroft clones.

quick question!
you know in mikey's movie, where there's the mom whose son was killed in the war; well what if he was killed by one of the people that youse guys made us let go from Gitmo; would Mike have used that footage?