Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Or, you could ban Not Me. That would be fitting, too.

Ignore is a lovely thing, on the board and in life. And while banning from here would not be a first amendment issue, unless somehow the Admins have become arms of the Government, we generally don't like the idea. In fact in our first year we haven't had to ban anyone. Haven't even come close.

Al shouldn't have jumped anyone. First amendment not withstanding, it is inappropriate to be violent because you don't like what someone is doing. Call the police if they are disrupting your event. The state does, after all, have a right to control time, place and manner of protest for reasons of safety and security as well as protecting the first amendment rights of all concerned.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Yeah, the President thinks he's done more for human rights than Abraham Lincoln, but John Kerry is an egomaniac.

But wait, AG -- that _must_ have been a misstatement. GWB could not _possibly_ have understood what he was saying and still have meant it! Right, BB?

OTOH -- Lighten up a bit. It's funny cartoon, and no one gets to where these people are by being a shrinking violet.

S_A_M

[Not Me]

Originally posted by leagleaze
The state does, after all, have a right to control time, place and manner of protest for reasons of safety and security as well as protecting the first amendment rights of all concerned.

As well as having the ability to enforce laws against trespassing if the event was held on private property and the LaRouche crowd had been asked to leave.

Al comitted an assault and battery.

[Dave]

Originally posted by sgtclub
a candidate has ever won Iowa and NH, but not the nomination?

According to , this story, never:

With his dominant victory, Kerry left the rest of the field facing historically long odds: No candidate has won both the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary and failed to win the nomination.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Dave
According to , this story, never:

That's what I expected. It could be different this year though. I think Kerry has a bit of trouble in the South with Edwards picking up there, and Dean doing better in the West.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
That's what I expected.

That is outrageous if true. Iowa and NH have way to much influence in US presidential politics.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Ignore is a lovely thing, on the board and in life. And while banning from here would not be a first amendment issue, unless somehow the Admins have become arms of the Government, we generally don't like the idea.

{Sigh.} I meant it to be an ironic request, not a real one. I guess I should leave the irony to PLF.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
no one gets to where these people are by being a shrinking violet.

I know. But if you truthfully say that, as a Senator, you "took the initiative in creating the Internet," it makes you sound like a kook. Or, at least, it allows people to tar you with it, when in fact politicians on both sides of the aisle cannot open their mouths without complimenting themselves under the guise of their "record." It's a byproduct of our perpetual campaign system. Which is I guess better than dictator-for-life, but not by much.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
{Sigh.} I meant it to be an ironic request, not a real one. I guess I should leave the irony to PLF.

If by "ironic" you mean "stupid," then yes, I see how that was ironic. But if by "ironic" you mean "ironic," well then, no, your request was not ironic.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Not Me
If by "ironic" you mean "stupid," then yes, I see how that was ironic. But if by "ironic" you mean "ironic," well then, no, your request was not ironic.

Don't make me go all Franken on your ass.

Flinty, how's progress on that invention that allows you to stab people in the face over the Internet? I think I want in on the ground floor.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Don't make me go all Franken on your ass.

Is that one of your "pithy one-liners"? Or is this more of your idea of "irony"?

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Flinty, how's progress on that invention that allows you to stab people in the face over the Internet? I think I want in on the ground floor.

Translation - she got the better of me.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
But wait, AG -- that _must_ have been a misstatement. GWB could not _possibly_ have understood what he was saying and still have meant it! Right, BB?

OTOH -- Lighten up a bit. It's funny cartoon, and no one gets to where these people are by being a shrinking violet.

We all understand that the cartoon dates from 1971, right?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
We all understand that the cartoon dates from 1971, right?

Right. You can tell because it's funny, and doesn't have any chicks and/or tits. Also, if we could see BD, he would be wearing a football helmet as opposed to whatever he's wearing now.

Frankly, I think the strip picked up when they introduced Uncle Duke. Little known fact --- he wasn't wearing the shades in the first two strips, but has at every subsequent point thereafter.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Holmes said the First Amendment does not give you the right to shout "fire" at a crowded Dean rally . . .

However, as that particular theater empties, the shouting of "fire" loses some of its danger.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
We all understand that the cartoon dates from 1971, right?

I thought drawn as in 1971. It was actually from 1971? Was Kerry a well known activist? Was the cartoon from a student paper?