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Old 02-22-2005, 11:06 AM   #436
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On the topic of missing clothes, the epitomy of The Emperor Has No Clothes is the retarded exhibition by two (likely) stinky foreigners who go by their first names only and are able to fool the retarded artsy crowd in Manhattan into thinking that hanging a bunch of sorry looking Saris is meaningful to anyone but them.
The amazing thing about The Gates is not the artistic redefinition of the Central Park landscape. It's the effect it had on people.

Central Park is considered the city's oasis. In the summer, it's one of the best places to be in the city. In the winter, there isn't much going on. These two idiots managed to get everyone who would otherwise be sitting on their asses at home, out with their families to actually see something. (And these are people who aren't spending their weekends at the MET or MoMA.) The genius was only putting it up for 2 weeks, creating a sense of urgency. I mean, when will you get to see something like this again?

I went to see it on Saturday with my daughter, a friend and her niece. It was fucking freezing. But there we were, amongst thousands and thousands of other people, from the most hardened New York cynics to the biggest Bambi-eyed, clueless tourists. Comments ranged from, "What a waste of fucking money," to "This really is beautiful." People took photos, walked through the park, climbed the rocks and explored areas they probably hadn't explored in years. Adults were lining up to get on swings and everyone just seemed younger and happier.

I agree with you that its artistic merit is debatable (orange flags. okay. so?). But the real art is in how it affects people. And as far as that goes -- from the debate it raised, to motivating people to get out and see something different, to watching them turn into kids -- it was a huge success.

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Old 02-22-2005, 11:17 AM   #438
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Christo is that.
The Gates were a lot prettier than a strip of drywall. In fact, I think running under them improved my running. Kind of made me feel cheerful. Thank you, Christo and Jeanne-Claude, for bringing a little cheer to my life!

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Old 02-22-2005, 11:21 AM   #439
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Have you ever played a sport when you were really sick? You can have short, powerful bursts of energy that you normally could recover from immediately but, because of the flu, etc, you feel exhausted after that burst. I've experienced just this. It takes you a few minutes to recover instead of recovering immediately, but you still have the capability to get to the top of your game, just not as often. It's much more difficult to maintain that high level than when you're healthy.

Of course, I agree that Jordan was playing it up a bit. Also, of course, the top of my game is exponentially lower than MJ's.
I've played when I've been sick (including the flu). Sometimes I've played well, sometimes I've played like crap. Either way, I've been healthy enough to play and when I played well, the flu wasn't bad enough for it to affect my game. This is my point.

I think Schilling and Jordan and any other athlete who plays when they don't feel well or aren't 100% should be commended. But I don't think that when someone performs at the absolute highest levels that they should be looked at as somehow having the mental strength to overcome a physical impediment that would incapacitate any other normal person (or athlete). That's just bullshit. The flu wasn't that bad because Jordan could play and he could play extremely well. Schilling's injury (in the short term) wasn't that bad because he could pitch and he could pitch extremely well.

That's all I'm saying.

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FWIW, the cow thing is EXACTLY what the Christo gates reminded me of. (Flash mobs strike me as a form of "public silliness cum art" with more actual artistic content, but they were harder to get to with my schedule.) I didn't make it to CP this weekend, but I am all for checking out someone engaging in public silliness. Public silliness is, in general, a good thing and should be encouraged.

I saw the cows in Chicago and in NY. They were silly everywhere, but better in Chicago. Some of the Chicago ones made me laugh, while the NY ones just seemed sort of lame. I also saw the mooses in Toronto. The mooses sucked ass.
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Check Gawker, Defamer, Fleshbot, Craigslist, etc. I think that I saw it on Chicago Craiglist, but I'm not going to do those kinds of searches at work.
Photos of Paris:

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spree: some nakedness.

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I also saw the mooses in Toronto. The mooses sucked ass.
I thought they were all right. They just looked decrepit because people started stealing the antlers. One of the funniest scenes I have witnessed was a mob chasing a guy who ripped some antlers off. He made it until the subway station until the mob caught up with him and wrestled the antlers away. He was duly arrested and taken off in handcuffs.

NYC currently has a bunch of apples in it. Is this another cow-like thing or did they just proliferate on their own?
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NYC currently has a bunch of apples in it. Is this another cow-like thing or did they just proliferate on their own?
Dunno, but I think the next public art project should include hundreds of these guys around the city to spice things up.

 
Old 02-22-2005, 01:36 PM   #445
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Heh.



Also, check out this commentary on the Christo over at Grammar Police.
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hundreds of these guys around the city to spice things up.

Why doesn't a city pick up on the possibilites TaxWonk opened with his Tron outfit?
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Why does everyone ignore the possibilites TaxWonk opend up with his Tron outfit?
Wow, he really did slim it down after all those heart problems. Kudos.
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The amazing thing about The Gates is not the artistic redefinition of the Central Park landscape. It's the effect it had on people.

Central Park is considered the city's oasis. In the summer, it's one of the best places to be in the city. In the winter, there isn't much going on. These two idiots managed to get everyone who would otherwise be sitting on their asses at home, out with their families to actually see something. (And these are people who aren't spending their weekends at the MET or MoMA.) The genius was only putting it up for 2 weeks, creating a sense of urgency. I mean, when will you get to see something like this again?

I went to see it on Saturday with my daughter, a friend and her niece. It was fucking freezing. But there we were, amongst thousands and thousands of other people, from the most hardened New York cynics to the biggest Bambi-eyed, clueless tourists. Comments ranged from, "What a waste of fucking money," to "This really is beautiful." People took photos, walked through the park, climbed the rocks and explored areas they probably hadn't explored in years. Adults were lining up to get on swings and everyone just seemed younger and happier.

I agree with you that its artistic merit is debatable (orange flags. okay. so?). But the real art is in how it affects people. And as far as that goes -- from the debate it raised, to motivating people to get out and see something different, to watching them turn into kids -- it was a huge success.

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What is the overall effect when you walked through it? Are there any overhead shots or something that conveys the overall effect? Because from the shots I've seen, it looks like people are going to the prom.
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