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Spanky · 04-20-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I know you have inside info I don't, but I don't see that happening based on what my limited inside info (cousin who's a PA GOP strategist) suggests.

You realize we're heading for civil war if she gets elected and tries what she'll think she can. It will be the end of the Democrat Party.

No more Bushes. No more Clintons. No more Kennedys.

I have just watched focus groups and she owns most women. Almost all Democrat women (except for Cindy Sheehan) and a lot of Republican women.

She doesn't need to be a great public speaker to win (ex: Georgoe W. Bush) and she does not need to be Charismatic to win the Democrat nomination (Mondale - Dukakis). She just needs the money and the institution backing, which I think she has.

She inspires a lot of women and then a lot of people are willing to tolerate her. The key to the presidency is not that everyone loves you, but that the majority of people are willing to tolerate you.

Democrat woman love her, Democrat men will tolerate her and Republican woman will tolerate her. Yes, Republican men really hate her, but Republican men against everyone else means Republican men lose.

Is there a Democrat man or woman on this board that hates Hillary? Is there a Republican woman on this board that hates Hillary?

I am going to meet Frank Luntz next week and I am going to ask him about this. I will let you know what he says.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-20-2007, 03:58 PM

This is the kind of whiny, humorless shiite that makes Liberals look like laughingstocks:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070420/...pr/mccain_joke

To all the normal Liberals out there, please - have some candidate run an ad saying these Che Guevera t-shirt wearing kooks, and their screwhead fellow travelers at Dailykos don't speak for you.

Hank Chinaski · 04-20-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Southern Patriot
Well, now, I'd hope we don't judge people just on what they wear. That wouldn't be right. We ought to judge them on more fundamental things, like race or religion.

I apologize for the profanity in my earlier post. It is ungentlemanly and I appologize. I just can't understand why people would be upset about corrupt Republicans.

my post was the best "sock-response" of the year- where is the love?

Adder · 04-20-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This is the kind of whiny, humorless shiite that makes Liberals look like laughingstocks:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070420/...pr/mccain_joke

To all the normal Liberals out there, please - have some candidate run an ad saying these Che Guevera t-shirt wearing kooks, and their screwhead fellow travelers at Dailykos don't speak for you.

Sorry, dude, but McCain's behavior was pretty fucked up. You can't go around singing about bombing other countries. Even if you are mocking other people who advocate that (it is not clear that he was), that is some seriously provacative crap, and a potential president has to have better judgment than that.

Southern Patriot · 04-20-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
my post was the best "sock-response" of the year- where is the love?

Boy, I heartily endorse you and everything you stand for. Indeed, I believe we stand together.

I hope you'll accept this belt buckle as a symbol of my love.

Spanky · 04-20-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Adder
Sorry, dude, but McCain's behavior was pretty fucked up. You can't go around singing about bombing other countries. Even if you are mocking other people who advocate that (it is not clear that he was), that is some seriously provacative crap, and a potential president has to have better judgment than that.

Didn't Reagan joke about bombing the Soviet Union while he was President?

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-20-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I have just watched focus groups and she owns most women. Almost all Democrat women (except for Cindy Sheehan) and a lot of Republican women.

She doesn't need to be a great public speaker to win (ex: Georgoe W. Bush) and she does not need to be Charismatic to win the Democrat nomination (Mondale - Dukakis). She just needs the money and the institution backing, which I think she has.

She inspires a lot of women and then a lot of people are willing to tolerate her. The key to the presidency is not that everyone loves you, but that the majority of people are willing to tolerate you.

Democrat woman love her, Democrat men will tolerate her and Republican woman will tolerate her. Yes, Republican men really hate her, but Republican men against everyone else means Republican men lose.

Is there a Democrat man or woman on this board that hates Hillary? Is there a Republican woman on this board that hates Hillary?

I am going to meet Frank Luntz next week and I am going to ask him about this. I will let you know what he says.

Dude, in my experience, MODERATE women hate her. Most of the women I know hate her more than the men (most of the men are apolitical and vote for whomever gives them lower taxes).

My wife's very apolitical and still says "There's something about her that skeeves me out." All the Liberals I know love Obama and wish she'd drop dead.

Hank Chinaski · 04-20-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Didn't Reagan joke about bombing the Soviet Union while he was President?

you don't keep up in Adder-think, Reagan was not an acceptable President.

Tyrone Slothrop · 04-20-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Didn't Reagan joke about bombing the Soviet Union while he was President?

How did that go over?

Hank Chinaski · 04-20-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
How did that go over?

call the USSR embassy and ask how they feel about it.

Adder · 04-20-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you don't keep up in Adder-think, Reagan was not an acceptable President.

I have no idea whether Reagan joked about bombing the Soviet union. But if he did, that probably wasn't very wise either.

And history should, but won't, judge Reagan as a cancer on America for all the waterheaded (to steal a term from Sebby) jesus-freak relublicans he unleashed on us.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-20-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Adder
Sorry, dude, but McCain's behavior was pretty fucked up. You can't go around singing about bombing other countries. Even if you are mocking other people who advocate that (it is not clear that he was), that is some seriously provacative crap, and a potential president has to have better judgment than that.

Dude, it was an under-the-radar silly joke. Only a serious pack of Black and Decker industrial grade tools like the variety at MoveOn would spend $100,000 to attack that and think it would have an impact (because they think everyone thinks like they do [or ought to]).

McCain's dead anyway. All this can do is help the guy.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-20-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Adder
I have no idea whether Reagan joked about bombing the Soviet union. But if he did, that probably wasn't very wise either.

And history should, but won't, judge Reagan as a cancer on America for all the waterheaded (to steal a term from Sebby) jesus-freak relublicans he unleashed on us.

Because we'd have been so much better off with a pack of people who used to follow Phish dominating the debate?

Come on. I like Jesus Nuts as much as jock itch, but you need those idiots to cancel out the MoveOn and DailyKos idiots.

If we could only get them to all move to Montana.

LessinSF · 04-20-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Adder
Sorry, dude, but McCain's behavior was pretty fucked up. You can't go around singing about bombing other countries. Even if you are mocking other people who advocate that (it is not clear that he was), that is some seriously provacative crap, and a potential president has to have better judgment than that.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t8e8tB7w3YY

Adder · 04-20-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Because we'd have been so much better off with a pack of people who used to follow Phish dominating the debate?

Come on. I like Jesus Nuts as much as jock itch, but you need those idiots to cancel out the MoveOn and DailyKos idiots.

If we could only get them to all move to Montana.

Once again, you are comparing fringe interest groups/bloggers to the people who have been running the country since 1994. There is a seriously difference in the danger posed by the two groups.