Making Baby Jesus Cry - Page 304

SlaveNoMore · 09-13-2005, 12:27 AM

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Tyrone Slothrop
....than they did when the question was whether to mobilize federal resources to help New Orleans.

Apologies if someone said this in the last twelve hours.

Blah blah blah.

Federal response and mobilization to Katrina was the fastest relief large-scale relief effort to date.

but Bush hates black people, right?

bilmore · 09-13-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
the Constitution/Bill of Rights aren't shit without their obvious, logical, implicit right to privacy).

"Implicit"? I can think of all sorts of "implicit" rights in the damn thing, but they only seem to work for older, Norwegian/Swedish lawyers. Screw the rest of ya!

Just because you think it's right doesn't mean it's already been added. Do the extra work, and get it voted on.

bilmore · 09-13-2005, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by dtb
I also don't understand why Holocaust Remembrance would be offensive to Muslims

Many of them - the leadership of the ME, in particular - deny that it occurred. It's a sore point.

Penske_Account · 09-13-2005, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
"Implicit"? I can think of all sorts of "implicit" rights in the damn thing, but they only seem to work for older, Norwegian/Swedish lawyers. Screw the rest of ya!

Just because you think it's right doesn't mean it's already been added. Do the extra work, and get it voted on.

right on! Welcome back Bilmoure, we need some common sense here.

bilmore · 09-13-2005, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
1. No, the issue just wasn't explicitly teed up until Griswold. Like I said, privacy was always implied, logically - obviously.

All the really good arguments contain the word "obviously". It's such a great shortcut.

Penske_Account · 09-13-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Many of them - the leadership of the ME, in particular - deny that it occurred. It's a sore point.

The leadership and a sizeable portion of the rank and file populace. The liberals are loathe to acknowledge the depth and breadth of the nazi-esque anti-semitism in the general population of the ME. It would undercut the legitimization of their chosen son Arafat that they worked so hard for over his 40 years of baby killing, which hard work resulted in a Nobel peace prize.

Never forget......

Never forgive......

Penske_Account · 09-13-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
All the really good arguments contain the word "obviously". It's such a great shortcut.

Obviously.

bilmore · 09-13-2005, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Obviously.

I'm back, and you and I are going to drive Sebby screaming into the night.

I'm sort of ashamed that someone as smart as he can fall for the idiocy that rationality can only be jettisoned for the sake of stupid political positions.

Tyrone Slothrop · 09-13-2005, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
but Bush hates black people, right?

That must be exactly what I mean. Thank you for crystallizing it so.

Penske_Account · 09-13-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I only read the journal when people send me links or if I have finished the weeks Economist. Ask Less - it is a sick addiction. When we were roomates it came a day late and I started to freak out (driving all over town looking for a copy and back in 1991 you couldn't find the Economist anywhere but the airport) and Less almost had me committed. I started reading it when I lived in London and along with Guiness and Shepards pie, I have never been able to kick the addiction. London had a really bad influence on me. Screwed up my spelling and erased my tan.

Not to discount the Economist, but you really should check out the Journal on a semi-daily basis. Get a web subscription. $49 a year.

bilmore · 09-13-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
That must be exactly what I mean. Thank you for crystallizing it so.

So, you stand in opposition to Dean?

Just wondering . . .

SlaveNoMore · 09-13-2005, 12:55 AM

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Tyrone Slothrop
That must be exactly what I mean. Thank you for crystallizing it so.

Well, so far I see a criminally neligent Mayor and Governor and a federal honcho (Brown) who didn't know how to handle the press. And an opportunistic Congress.

And while I see local and state officers running away (or getting paid trips to go to Vegas), I see thousands of federal soldiers/workers and unpaid American volunteers working frantically to assist everyone that they can.

So if not the "Bush hates black people point," I'm curious how - now that everything is starting to shake out - you find such overwhelming fault with the Feds?

sebastian_dangerfield · 09-13-2005, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Which reminds me that it's impressive how much less concern for states' rights the Republicans had when the life of a brain-dead women in a swing state was at stake than they did when the question was whether to mobilize federal resources to help New Orleans.

Apologies if someone said this in the last twelve hours.

You just don't understand the GOP's states' rights... Its states rights for all, unless those states start doing things the GOP's most virulent voting blocs dislike.

I can't wait until they topple Roe and give the issue to the states. The resulting patchwork of state laws is going to spur a million constitutional challenges in every direction and all but start a cultural civil war. A bloody, disgusting mess, over an issue the govt has no fucking business even getting into... I'm going to enjoy watching it.

Fools. There's a bigger reason we have Roe. Some issues just don't belong in the hands of the legislature. They're fucking with something that should be left very, very alone.

Penske_Account · 09-13-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
So, you stand in opposition to Dean?

Just wondering . . .

The picture of the modern day demos is a lonely one:

bilmore · 09-13-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Well, so far I see a criminally neligent Mayor and Governor and a federal honcho (Brown) who didn't know how to handle the press. And an opportunistic Congress.

And while I see local and state officers running away (or getting paid trips to go to Vegas), I see thousands of federal soldiers/workers and unpaid American volunteers working frantically to assist everyone that they can.

So if not the "Bush hates black people point," I'm curious how - now that everything is starting to shake out - you find such overwhelming fault with the Feds?

It's the MEME model of politics.

They used it on Bush with the "he lied" crap.

You posit a theme, and then, no matter how well the facts shut you down, you just keep repeating it.

It's all based on the idea that voters are idiots, and will simply remember the last thing they read from the press.

Why else would Landrieu (sp?) just keep saying the same thing?

I wonder - when the mass of voters realize that the only Dem strength involves assuming they are stoopid - how long they will be the secondary party. I'm guessing the Libs overtake them within ten years.