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[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
not bob, you have more gravitas than to make this argument, that's right, gravitas.

Please. If I had any gravitas, what would I be doing here?

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Bob
Please. If I had any gravitas, what would I be doing here?

If you had any gravitas, you'd already be LinkedIn ;-)

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If you had any gravitas, you'd already be LinkedIn ;-)

That smiley is beneath you. It is beneath us all. Funny, or not funny. There is no "try."

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
me personally? doesn't matter. i trust my governement. the executive branch proposed using it, and my elected congress had no objection, so I'm okay with it.

Does the NRA have a second membership tier now?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
That smiley is beneath you. It is beneath us all. Funny, or not funny. There is no "try."

I admire his ability to do something out of character in an effort to communicate with someone very different from him. It's sort of sweet, and in keeping with the season, or whatever.

[LessinSF]

If I am God, and I just made 5+ million distinct species of beetles (and made sure that 10+ million got on the Ark), what's my thinking on how the fourth commandment is treated by the followers of Abu Bakr vis-a-vis Ali ibn Abi Talib?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
It's sort of sweet, and in keeping with the season, or whatever.

he's trying to sell something?

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
See here and here for some names. But for me it's less the specific individuals, and more the sense I have that Clinton has -- for whatever reason, though I could speculate -- surrounded herself with the Democratic foreign policy establishment which got the Iraq war wrong and often seems more interested in proving its seriousness by distinguishing itself from the left. Clinton and her advisors are cautious, doctrinaire, and hawkish, in comparison to Obama. When Democrats debate foreign policy, there are two debates going on. One is for the people who vote in primaries, whom many Democrats -- Hillary foremost among them -- apparently don't think vote on foreign policy concerns. The other is for the foreign policy elite. Hillary seems to working hard to blur the differences between herself and others in the former debate, while signalling to the audience in the second that she is one of them. Obama, in contrast, doesn't seem to care what the Democratic foreign-policy elite consensus is, and for that I give him high marks.

For Obama's foreign policy views, you stressed the point about how great the persons Obama surrounds himself with. But you are linking me to old articles about Mark Lippert, a 34 year old Naval reservist - can you say anything about that man's role in foreign policy? Probably not. And anyhow, he's in Iraq or just recently back and apparently Daschle's advisor filled the void. Clearly you are sketchy on how Obama would walk us through the minefield of international politics. Given the current state of this world, I just can't vote based on fuzzy ambiguous "feelings."

BTW- Sebby you admitted you have seen Hillary's inner thighs. Nice.

Oh and what is up with the "Oops I did it again" from the Clinton camp: ""The issue related to cocaine use is not something the campaign is in any way raising," Mark Penn, MSNBC's Hardball.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
For Obama's foreign policy views, you stressed the point about how great the persons Obama surrounds himself with. But you are linking me to old articles about Mark Lippert, a 34 year old Naval reservist - can you say anything about that man's role in foreign policy? Probably not. And anyhow, he's in Iraq or just recently back and apparently Daschle's advisor filled the void. Clearly you are sketchy on how Obama would walk us through the minefield of international politics. Given the current state of this world, I just can't vote based on fuzzy ambiguous "feelings."

BTW- Sebby you admitted you have seen Hillary's inner thighs. Nice.

Oh and what is up with the "Oops I did it again" from the Clinton camp: ""The issue related to cocaine use is not something the campaign is in any way raising," Mark Penn, MSNBC's Hardball.

I honestly think we should simplify foreign policy, like say a Russian politician says "The United States acts like the world's babysitter meddling in other countries' affairs when it has no rights under international law." Or, "the united States claims the moral high ground, but then supports murderous dictators!"

I think our response should be, "So?" I think we need to move away from nuance. I don't think we live in a nuanced world so much anymore.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
For Obama's foreign policy views, you stressed the point about how great the persons Obama surrounds himself with. But you are linking me to old articles about Mark Lippert, a 34 year old Naval reservist - can you say anything about that man's role in foreign policy? Probably not. And anyhow, he's in Iraq or just recently back and apparently Daschle's advisor filled the void. Clearly you are sketchy on how Obama would walk us through the minefield of international politics. Given the current state of this world, I just can't vote based on fuzzy ambiguous "feelings."

I think his choice of advisors suggests he's approaching foreign policy in a good way. Of course we're sketchy on how Obama would walk us through the minefield of international politics. It's hard to tell with any candidate. Gov. Bush scoffed a nation-building, and now we're several years into trying to bring democracy to Iraq. Do you think it's any clearer what Romney or Huckabee would do? I will admit that I have a pretty good sense of Giuliani, not least because of the lunatics he has surrounded himself with as advisors

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

A propos of nothing:

The loneliest job in the world has to be the guy seeking ballot petition signatures in Washington DC for Mike Huckabee. I felt bad and gave him his fourth signature of the day.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Do you think it's any clearer what Romney or Huckabee would do?

No.

I will admit that I have a pretty good sense of Giuliani, not least because of the lunatics he has surrounded himself with as advisors.

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[taxwonk]

Originally posted by LessinSF
If I am God, and I just made 5+ million distinct species of beetles (and made sure that 10+ million got on the Ark), what's my thinking on how the fourth commandment is treated by the followers of Abu Bakr vis-a-vis Ali ibn Abi Talib?

It's not really a matter of the Fourth Commandment being looked at differently. It's really just an argument over who is the rightful arbiter of any disputes.

Well, that and who gets the oil money and who has to sell bad bootleg cds in the souk.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If you had any gravitas, you'd already be LinkedIn ;-)

As if. No, my minions would be LinkedIn.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What do you mean when you say this? Does Lindsey Graham have to worry that he's going to face a serious challenge, ever? Does he think the way to please South Carolina voters is to take this position? Neither of those notions seem plausible to me. He's taking that position because he served in the armed forces and he thinks that what the Administration is doing is bad for the armed forces.

I mean they are made to score political points and/or to advance his agenda because he already knows the correct answer and knows that the person he's asking won't answer the question.

He may yet accomplish something, I hope so.

Your narrow focus on electoral politics frequently causes you to misunderstand what I'm saying.

S_A_M