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Old 12-14-2007, 03:00 PM   #4576
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The answer is Neither.

To suggest otherwise - that somehow Senate Democrats believe in free markets - is to suggest the moon is made of cheese.
Be that as it may, they voted better on this one that the GOP did.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:03 PM   #4577
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When was the last time the US purchased purple hearts?
Apparently, you need to modify this chestnut:

"Korean War veteran Nyles Reed, 75, opened an envelope last week to learn a Purple Heart had been approved for injuries he sustained as a Marine on June 22, 1952.

But there was no medal. Just a certificate and a form stating that the medal was "out of stock."

"I can imagine, of course, with what's going on in Iraq and Afghanistan, there's a big shortage," Reed said. "At least, I would imagine so."

The form letter from the Navy Personnel Command told Reed he could wait 90 days and resubmit an application, or buy his own medal.

After waiting 55 years, however, Reed decided to pay $42 for his own Purple Heart and accompanying ribbon — plus state sales taxes — at a military surplus store..."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules...ticle&sid=2399
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:12 PM   #4578
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Be that as it may, they voted better on this one that the GOP did.
There is no valor voting for (or against) something doomed for failure.

As the article you quote states - lets see this valor when the real bill comes up.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:26 PM   #4579
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do you think the 10,000,000 civilians that were saved thank us? I think they do.
Our invading troops would have killed 10,000,000 civilians? I for one will not sit here and listen to you call our armed forces a pack of murdering animals.
 
Old 12-14-2007, 03:29 PM   #4580
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There is no valor voting for (or against) something doomed for failure.

As the article you quote states - lets see this valor when the real bill comes up.
It wasn't doomed for failure. It got 56 votes. If a few Republicans had voted the other way, it would have had a filibuster-proof majority.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:59 PM   #4581
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He said the same thing in speech to the CMSA back in NY in July. 3 weeks later, the credit markets crashed.

Better question to me, was, if you need cheap credit would lead to this debacle, why did the Fed on your watch keep the rate ar such record lows?
The pragmatic reality is that we are in a bubble economy. Greenspan knows this, as he admitted in his Journal oped when he said middle class wages in this country have for three decades been "flattening" and will not un-flatten until foreign labor costs creep to meet ours in, say, 2070. The middle and upper middle class is the survivor class. Take away their solid job base and they start finding things to sell and creating all sorts of markets aided by Wall St, of course.

We're going to keep having these silly bubbles, and we're going to see stranger and stranger lending vehicles appearing.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:00 PM   #4582
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Our invading troops would have killed 10,000,000 civilians? I for one will not sit here and listen to you call our armed forces a pack of murdering animals.
Hank was thinking of Dresden, and felt shame.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:03 PM   #4583
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It wasn't doomed for failure. It got 56 votes. If a few Republicans had voted the other way, it would have had a filibuster-proof majority.
As the astute (snicker) author at TNR (snort) pointed out, why vote for a reform bill when the actual bill is so odious. Vote that one down. Period. End of story.
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Our invading troops would have killed 10,000,000 civilians? I for one will not sit here and listen to you call our armed forces a pack of murdering animals.
believe me, I invented posting form a position of ignorance, but I knew I was doing it.

other than the reports in HS that you are dull normal, I'm not sure you realize how dumb you sound with this.

Hint: the entire population, women, children, guys older than Wonk, they were all being forced to "defend the homeland." 10,000,000 is not an excessive estimate.

Ty, can you tell him how dumb he is please.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:04 PM   #4585
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Hank was thinking of Dresden, and felt shame.
hint to you: Ironweed ain't the brightest bulb in the box. I think you're better off tying you wagon to Ty's star.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:04 PM   #4586
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We're going to keep having these silly bubbles, and we're going to see stranger and stranger lending vehicles appearing.
As that keeps me in business, I'm generally not complaining.

For now....
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The answer is Neither.

To suggest otherwise - that somehow Senate Democrats believe in free markets - is to suggest the moon is made of cheese.
Well, thankfully we have Bush's huge bailout for those subprime mortgages as a template for future intervention when markets turn into irrational frenzies. All 300 beneficiaries are breathing a lot easier today.

BTW, when did a guy making $100k and taking out an ARM to buy a $500k house become a subprime borrower. Is "Subprime" the new "Hedge Fund"? Means whatever you want it to mean? I always thought subprime was a low credit score, but low and behold, suddenly, the ass up the street who bought a Hummer, Benz and McMansion with his 2d year associate's salary is a subprime borrower entitled to relief.

Thank God that plan is nothing but smoke and mirrors. I feel bad for a lot of people who got screwed in the inner cities by unscrupulous brokers, but fuck these greedheads who took out interest only loans and ARMs just because they wanted a living room in which they could put a 20 person dining table.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:10 PM   #4588
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believe me, I invented posting form a position of ignorance, but I knew I was doing it.

other than the reports in HS that you are dull normal, I'm not sure you realize how dumb you sound with this.

Hint: the entire population, women, children, guys older than Wonk, they were all being forced to "defend the homeland." 10,000,000 is not an excessive estimate.

Ty, can you tell him how dumb he is please.
Ironweed, Hank claims to have invented some sort of posting form to demonstrate ignorance on the boards, and I, for one, believe him.
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As that keeps me in business, I'm generally not complaining.

For now....
What I don't understand is why so many properties are in foreclosure so rapidly. Is this because the paper was flipped so many times? Or is everybody running to foreclose so they can sell off the properties while the discount is still modest? You'd think they;d want to be a little more open to liberal workouts from a cash flow persepctive. Maybe it's a regulatory thing.
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Old 12-14-2007, 04:15 PM   #4590
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How many japanese citizens died in hiroshima?

How many Japanese citizens died during the invasion of Okinawa?

How many purple hearts had the US ordered to be used during the invasion of the main islands?

When was the last time the US purchased purple hearts?

but like i dig man, it was bogue to do it!
I have little problem with it, but - under the approach being used in the Serbian war crimes trials - it was a war crime and Truman, Ike, Bradley, et al. are war criminals. But, then again, I don't see why Iran or N. Korea are any less entitled to nukes than we are.
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