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03-09-2004, 06:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
They just make me feel silly, frankly. If a man gets out of a car and expects me to remain in it while he comes around and opens it for me, I feel either (a) like I should tip him, or (b) like he's pretending to be James Bond, neither of which makes me feel particularly comfortable.
Just do what is practical.
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You have no friggen' idea what makes you tick.
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03-09-2004, 06:15 PM
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#452
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Giving them after birth doesn't indicate that you know how a woman ticks. It only shows that you know how to follow orders.
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Contradictory statements.
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03-09-2004, 06:16 PM
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Never have understood why some women get angry when men don't put the seat down. Just look before you sit.
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I think there is a reason this complaint only really comes up in married/living together situations. It is an "it's 3 am, I have to piss and I am half asleep and stumbling around, stubbed my toe on the table and if I turn the lights on I squint and can't see anyway, and having to check seat position before I sit down is really, really too much to ask in the cirucumstances" problem. In normal situations, who wouldn't check? But in the half-asleep 3 am situation, I don't think wanting to be able to stagger through your own home to your own toilet and just plop yourself down in relative safety is unreasonable.
Doesn't work the other way (leaving the seat up for the guys, though they could then fall in, too, if it wasn't a whizz they are after). They have to take a good look at the toilet first anyway to be able to aim. (And if they think they don't, they need to never live with a woman.)
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03-09-2004, 06:18 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
They have to take a good look at the toilet first anyway to be able to aim. (And if they think they don't, they need to never live with a woman.)
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Yeah. Blindly landing your ass half off the seat is plenty comfortable.
Where's ltl/fb with her efficiency arguments on this one?
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03-09-2004, 06:18 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Do not order for the woman in a restaurant. Its like wearing a sharkskin double breasted suit.
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It's all in how you say "and my lovebitch will have the same."
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03-09-2004, 06:19 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I think there is a reason this complaint only really comes up in married/living together situations. It is an "it's 3 am, I have to piss and I am half asleep and stumbling around, stubbed my toe on the table and if I turn the lights on I squint and can't see anyway, and having to check seat position before I sit down is really, really too much to ask in the cirucumstances" problem. In normal situations, who wouldn't check? But in the half-asleep 3 am situation, I don't think wanting to be able to stagger through your own home to your own toilet and just plop yourself down in relative safety is unreasonable.
Doesn't work the other way (leaving the seat up for the guys, though they could then fall in, too, if it wasn't a whizz they are after). They have to take a good look at the toilet first anyway to be able to aim. (And if they think they don't, they need to never live with a woman.)
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I assure you, when a guy has to take a dump, he looks down to make sure everything's in its proper place before he sits. Now, if its a given that women are more detail oriented and neat than men - which they are - then why the hell are they so negligent in this one very important detail area?
I may forget to pay the cable bill or clean the cat litter, but you can bet your ass I'm going to be making sure wherever I stick my bare ass is pretty damn safe and clean.
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03-09-2004, 06:21 PM
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Rageaholic
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
you can bet your ass I'm going to be making sure wherever I stick my bare ass is pretty damn safe and clean.
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Board motto?
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03-09-2004, 06:24 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Bad_Rich_Chic
Needless to say, Charlie is a 6 foot 2, 350 pound flaming kimono wearing opera queen. There is no magnifier of the adjective "flamboyant" to adequately encompass Charlie's complete, queeny flamboyance. He makes QE4TSG's Carson seem about as gay as Gregory Peck in the Man in the Grey Flannel Suit. So Charlie comes dashing in the front door of the restaurant, sees me, shrieks like a 13 y.o. girl and runs up to grab me squealing "ooh, Baddie, you look divine!! New shoes!!!" and bouncing up and down, all 350 pounds of him, with his silk scarf flapping out behind him.
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So, I take it it was after you got married that this "Charlie" started playing soccer.
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03-09-2004, 06:25 PM
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Doesn't work the other way (leaving the seat up for the guys, though they could then fall in, too, if it wasn't a whizz they are after). They have to take a good look at the toilet first anyway to be able to aim. (And if they think they don't, they need to never live with a woman.)
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Reminds me of a vacation I took with a gay friend of mine. We were sharing a room (platonically, of course) and I woke up in the middle of the night to the sound of running water. Look up and he is standing in the corner of our room peeing on the wall. He apparently sleepwalked over there. I had to wake him up and tell him to stop peeing there.
Thankfully we were in Mexico with tile floors instead of carpeting. But still. Yuck.
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03-09-2004, 06:27 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Romantically enfranchised
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Originally posted by Fugee
The rest of the guys here should pay attention to BRC's post. This being 2004, those things are no longer the "absolutes" they were in 1904, but they make a woman feel special/treasured. Unless you are surrounded by women clamoring to jump your bones, this is a good thing.
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I know someone who thinks that women feel special/treasured when he kisses their hands. Most are squicked out/nauseated.
I live in a part of the country where half the guys will insist that I leave the elevator before they do, and the other half get off as soon as the door opens. I never know what kind of guy any given person will be, though age sometimes is an indicator, accent too if I'm lucky enough to hear him speak. If someone gets out of the elevator for me, if someone opens a door for me, if someone walks me to my car, I smile graciously and accept the guesture. If not, I smile graciously and move on on my own. In short, I do a lot of smiling, and I have no expectations.
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03-09-2004, 06:28 PM
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I'll bet you hundred dollar bills to donuts that almost any woman you know would rather be with someone who doesn't care much about these rules and fits other (sensible) criteria well, than the made-up, romance-novel, fabio loser you have a picture of in your screwed up head.
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Goodness.
Well, she knows at least one. I think consideration for basic etiquette and societal conventions for conveying respect to others is a key sign of healthy social adjustment.
BR(and the opening of car doors can be a deal breaker if he owns an SUV or a truck, 'cause I'm real short and can't get in and out of some of those fuckers without assistance)C
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03-09-2004, 06:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I know someone who thinks that women feel special/treasured when he kisses their hands. Most are squicked out/nauseated.
I live in a part of the country where half the guys will insist that I leave the elevator before they do, and the other get off as soon as the door opens. I never know what kind of guy any given person will be, though age sometimes is an indicator, accent too if I'm lucky enough to hear him speak. If someone gets out of the elevator for me, if someone opens a door for me, if someone walks me to my car, I smile graciously and accept the guesture. If not, I smile graciously and move on on my own. In short, I do a lot of smiling, and I have no expectations.
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Not a direct reply to your post, but I think there are some specific instances where it's okay, and not insulting to her, to walk a woman to her car or home. For example, recently in the Lincoln Park/Lakeview area of Chicago, a serial rapist/assaulter has been attacking women late at night/early in the morning. Regardless of how strong/tough the woman is, the attacker has the element of surprise. A companion, male or female, will drastically reduce the probability of being attacked, correct? Thus I* try to make sure a taxi takes any solo (girl)friend straight to her door, or that someone, male or female, walks with her.
*I'm not special. Almost every guy here has recently insisted upon this.
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03-09-2004, 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Well, she knows at least one.
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Are you referring to the Mr.? Because if so, I've already started puking.
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I think consideration for basic etiquette and societal conventions for conveying respect to others is a key sign of healthy social adjustment.
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I think your world is very different from mine. One can convey respect without desperately holding on to outdated societal conventions.
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03-09-2004, 06:36 PM
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#464
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No Rank For You!
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I've been lurking the entire day reading about all the pissing and moaning. Given that I've wasted a whole day with you, I would like the ladies of the Board to answer a question.
Do you feel at all uncomfortable walking up a set of stairs in front of a man if that man intentionally stays two or three stairs behind you so that your ass is at his face level?
signed,
slowpoke
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03-09-2004, 06:38 PM
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#465
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
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Originally posted by Beelzebubba
Do you feel at all uncomfortable walking up a set of stairs in front of a man if that man intentionally stays two or three stairs behind you so that your ass is at his face level?
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It depends on the man.
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