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03-09-2005, 08:58 PM
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#4696
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
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03-09-2005, 08:58 PM
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#4697
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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AQ Threat Overestimated?
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
What did this come from? and kudos for presenting something from the other side. Seriously.
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http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigat...=566425&page=1
and its not the first time, but that doesn't fit in with your world view.
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03-09-2005, 09:01 PM
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#4698
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Flyover land
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AQ Threat Overestimated?
I know it's not the first time. That's why I can't bring myself to loathe you all out. And possibly why I get more frustrated with you than with the irredeemable one-sided assholes.
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03-09-2005, 09:24 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Tool Time
NEW YORK (AP) - Dan Rather echoed a word he once used every night to sign off the "CBS Evening News" - courage - in anchoring the program for the final time after 24 years on Wednesday.
In a brief statement at the end of the broadcast, Rather paid tribute to Sept. 11 terrorist victims, tsunami survivors, American military forces, the oppressed, those in failing health and fellow journalists in dangerous places.
"And, to each of you," he said. "Courage."
He seemed to savor each word of his signoff: "For the 'CBS Evening News,' Dan Rather reporting. Good night."
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03-09-2005, 09:26 PM
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#4700
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
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Wolfie
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Originally posted by Spanky
Actually the brothels in Thailand are mostly full of girls from Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.
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A moderate Republican, active in the GOP, knowledgeable about Thai brothels . . .
Neil Bush!
S_A_M
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"Courage is the price that life extracts for granting peace."
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03-09-2005, 09:28 PM
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Aha.
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Can't be him. Everyone knows that T-54 tanks blew.
S_A_M
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"Courage is the price that life extracts for granting peace."
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03-09-2005, 09:32 PM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Can't be him. Everyone knows that T-54 tanks blew.
S_A_M
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Every time you post I get that stupid song stuck in my head.
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03-09-2005, 09:41 PM
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: You Never Know . . .
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Originally posted by Spanky
Every time you post I get that stupid song stuck in my head.
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Not so bad if the alternative persona is "Mac the Knife."
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"Courage is the price that life extracts for granting peace."
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03-09-2005, 09:58 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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Tool Time
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
NEW YORK (AP) - Dan Rather echoed a word he once used every night to sign off the "CBS Evening News" - courage - in anchoring the program for the final time after 24 years on Wednesday.
In a brief statement at the end of the broadcast, Rather paid tribute to Sept. 11 terrorist victims, tsunami survivors, American military forces, the oppressed, those in failing health and fellow journalists in dangerous places.
"And, to each of you," he said. "Courage."
He seemed to savor each word of his signoff: "For the 'CBS Evening News,' Dan Rather reporting. Good night."
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You sound like one of those fundamentalists who's got a snit about the homosexual agenda and has to go on and on about the specific devient practices they're going to teach unwitting cub scouts.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-09-2005, 10:07 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Romantically enfranchised
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Originally posted by Spanky
People keep calling this Italian Journalist a socialist but you have to be careful when trying to use Italian political terms with our definitions of the term. When I lived in Florence, the Communist party was in charge in Tuscany. Political posters with the Hammer and Sickle were everywhere. However, the communist party had moved way to the right since Stalin’s time. They were pro NATO, anti-Russian and pro-free enterprise. What made them different from the conservative parties was that they were for the welfare state. The socialists were also not real socialists. There were real socialist and communist parties but they were called the people's parties and weird names like that.
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Almost every news account that I've seen of this in the US has pointed out that she worked for a Communist newspaper. I was in the UK when she was rescued/shot, and the media there said she was simply a journalist. Their adjective of choice was "wounded".
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"In the olden days before the internet, you'd take this sort of person for a ride out into the woods and shoot them, as Darwin intended, before he could spawn."--Will the Vampire People Leave the Lobby? pg 79
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03-09-2005, 10:08 PM
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#4706
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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Quote:
Spanky
Every time you post I get that stupid song stuck in my head.
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The Beatles "I'm a Loser"?
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03-09-2005, 10:09 PM
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
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Tool Time
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You sound like one of those fundamentalists who's got a snit about the homosexual agenda and has to go on and on about the specific devient practices they're going to teach unwitting cub scouts.
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You say fundamentalist like it's a bad thing. Aren't those the people who brought us reading?
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03-09-2005, 10:13 PM
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#4708
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I'm getting off!
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: know where the midwest is?
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the ghost of christmas future
Man Dead On Futon For Nearly 10 Years Before Family Notices
While I find this shocking, it forces me to imagine what the headlines will read sometime in early 2009, after the Republicans and the faithful patriots of the Red States of America have retained the White House and advanced their majorities, yet again, in the House and Senate...........
"Democrat Party dead for nearly 10 years before Nation notices"
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03-09-2005, 10:14 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
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What's the Frequency, Slotheth
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Tyrone Slothrop
You sound like one of those fundamentalists who's got a snit about the homosexual agenda and has to go on and on about the specific devient practices they're going to teach unwitting cub scouts.
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If that's the case, then you sound like the lawyer defending the Cub Scout leader - revealed as a NAMBLA member, and who deescribes his Camporee as a forum to "awaken youths' budding sexuality - as a good citizen who gave to the Tsunami fund.
Courage!!!!
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03-09-2005, 10:14 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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The Medium Lobster makes me think I was wrong about Lebanon.
- Liberation at Gunpoint: Now More Than Ever
Freedom has been on the crawl of late. From the reforms of Mahmoud Abbas’s Palestine to the upheavals in Lebanon to Hosni Mubarak’s promise of a slightly less rigged election in Egypt’s near future, the Mideast is taking confident baby-steps toward a more democratic future – and mostly as a response simply to civil demonstrations and diplomatic pressure. One might draw the conclusion that it is therefore possible to nudge corrupt and tyrannical regimes in the direction of freedom and democracy without massive preventive invasions, enormous loss of life, and inaccurate, bad-faith presentations of casus belli. But one would be wrong – oh, so terribly wrong. For had the United States not bludgeoned Iraq into a quasi-democratic shape, the Muslim world would never have thought to try democracy on its own. Indeed, before the Iraq war, Arabs scarcely knew that democracy existed.
News travels slowly in the Mideast, where messages are still passed from place to place by antique methods such as carrier pigeon and satellite television. As a result, most Arabs knew little of the existence or nature of the world beyond them, or of "the West" and its fabled "democracy." In a prewar poll exclusively conducted by researchers at the Medium Lobster Institute of International Studies, 43% of Middle East respondents believed that "democracy" was "a spicy dish made from ground lamb and cinnamon," while 28% believed it was one of several methods for removing female body parts deemed offensive by the Koran. Even more troubling, when asked about "freedom," 68% of Muslims either "disapproved" or "strongly disapproved" of the concept, while 16% were undecided. Nearly two-thirds of all respondents agreed with the statement "If you're Muslim, or perhaps brown-skinned, you can't be self-governing and free."
But all this changed with the January elections in Iraq. Suddenly the Muslim world became aware of a new concept – “freedom” – began to investigate it, and think to itself, “Is this right for me?” The more Lebanese, Egyptians and Palestinians considered their options, the safe, old military dictatorship and permanent foreign occupations just didn’t seem to satisfy them anymore.
One might argue that the progress in Palestine and Lebanon would never have taken place without the death of Yasser Arafat and the assassination of Rafik al Hariri, but why didn’t Palestinians and Lebanese simply say, “Let’s give old corrupt tyranny another go, it’s worth one more shot” when given the opportunity? Because this time they were aware of an alternative: an alternative called freedom. And that alternative would not have been there for them had the American military not been there to invade, occupy, and torture a neighboring country.
Make no mistake: the Iraq war has brought us significant progress. In a poll conducted just days after the Iraqi election, Mideast residents overwhelmingly described their feelings toward freedom and democracy as “positive,” and 66% correctly identified it as “a system of government in which power is vested in the people, who rule either directly or through freely elected representatives”; only 12% described it as “an abomination of ghosts and worms.” Sadly, being only aware of Iraqi democracy, the entire Middle East currently believes that democracy only functions with sporadic elections for anonymous Islamist candidates in the midst of a massive terrorist campaign. What is needed is a better role model: another, more violent invasion of a bigger, more responsive country ought to do the trick. The Medium Lobster is open to suggestions.
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