Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
There is a substantial question as to whether or not it was what she wanted. Perhaps some day justice will be served there.

Right. And there's a substantial question as to whether she was really fully alert.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Penalty for what?

Violating the law you would want to have that makes abortion illegal. What are the consequences of violating the law, and who is the violator? Pregnant woman? Doctor? Non-doctor, back-alley, knitting-needle-wielding, cash-only purveyor of abortions?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Would you at least have the decency to give him a reach around?

Western grip, with lube. I'm not a goddamned monster.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account

It’s always good to remind voters that Democrats are the party of ... sodomy

Originally posted by Penske_Account
My wife votes Republican

This explains a lot. Having an anti-blowjob wife would turn even Atticus into a raving lunatic.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Violating the law you would want to have that makes abortion illegal. What are the consequences of violating the law, and who is the violator? Pregnant woman? Doctor? Non-doctor, back-alley, knitting-needle-wielding, cash-only purveyor of abortions?

Death, of course. What other penalty?

Sounds bad, but look at the bright side. You and your unborn child will be reunited with Jesus.

And then you'll be dispatched to hell. Sucks to be your dead fetus. Fucking kid can't buy a break...

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
The carrot joke shows your disrespect for her and her family.

It doesn't, but I have no respect for her parents if that's what you mean. They took a poor, screwed up girl (though I'm sure her anorexia had nothing to do with their parenting -- right?) who was private throughout her life and dragged her through the spotlight just to assuage their own personal feelings. They dragged her husband through the mud and accused him of murder.

In the real world of civilized, non-Penske people, casually accusing people of murder is considered bad. I realize it's like breathing for you.

They made what should have been a private, personal decision into a national spectacle, and they should be ashamed.

And I would gladly tell them that.



Cue the "murder liberal liberal murder dem party of blah blah blah blah" Penske bullshit. You became a caricature of yourself 50,000 posts ago.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
See, this is the analysis docs will give, nononono.

But if the negative value of a downs baby is 4x the negative value of a miscarriage, one should go with amnio. Yet docs are afraid to even suggest that calculus.

Another factor jacking with the calculus, is that a test like the triple or quad screen, a maternal blood test, will identify 70% of Downs babies, however, I think its works out that over 90% of positive results are false positives. A woman who by age has only 1/1000+ chance but with a positive screen has some pretty messed up numbers to sort through when you layer the amnio risk on top of that. The bonus is that if you come out clear on the triple screen, chances are pretty low there's a problem.

Below, from webmd are some stats on triple screen:

Let's take a moment to consider where the most maligned screening test of them all—the AFP, or triple screen test—fits into the picture. If the AFP screening test were designed to be a diagnostic test, its track record would be horrendous: 95% of women who receive a positive result on the test are, in fact, carrying perfectly healthy babies. But since it's designed to be a screening test, it makes sense to assess its effectiveness on that basis (that is, how good it is at identifying women who are at risk of giving birth to a baby with a serious birth defect).

Consider the numbers for yourself. AFP testing results from the University of Connecticut show, for example, that the AFP test has a respectably high detection rate: approximately 82.1% of cases of neural tube defects and 73.7% of cases of Down syndrome in women under age 35 are picked up by the test.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Violating the law you would want to have that makes abortion illegal. What are the consequences of violating the law, and who is the violator? Pregnant woman? Doctor? Non-doctor, back-alley, knitting-needle-wielding, cash-only purveyor of abortions?

Consumer and service provider. I would put the focus and the more severe penalties on the latter. For a doctor, I'd say one strike and your license is out. Other than that I don't know-i have not fully examined the possibilities or the equities.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Read what I wrote. It proves you wrong again. Where is lo-berry to declare you the wrongest? Where bilmore, where?

[sigh] You are truly not worth the effort.

Let's take abortion, since the question is the clearest of all the areas AC mentioned. Americans overwhelmingly support a woman's right to choose, despite the right's most vociferous efforts to change that. So why would that fail in the legislative arena?

I'm still waiting for you to write a coherent explanation of her assertion with respect to pornography, criminals’ rights, and property rights (gay marriage I'll give you), with some evidence to back it up.

No, wait - I'm not. Not until you magically become coherent.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
This explains a lot. Having an anti-blowjob wife would turn even Atticus into a raving lunatic.

Excellent use of the politics of personal destruction Carville-lite.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SEC_Chick
Another factor jacking with the calculus, is that a test like the triple or quad screen, a maternal blood test, will identify 70% of Downs babies, however, I think its works out that over 90% of positive results are false positives. A woman who by age has only 1/1000+ chance but with a positive screen has some pretty messed up numbers to sort through when you layer the amnio risk on top of that. The bonus is that if you come out clear on the triple screen, chances are pretty low there's a problem.

This is why I would say, if you are thinking a lot about this the peace of mind is important to you, get the screen. But don't get the amnio. Chances are you get a negative, and whew. If you get a positive, then you hold out the hope that it's false.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
[sigh] You are truly not worth the effort.

Let's take abortion, since the question is the clearest of all the areas AC mentioned. Americans overwhelmingly support a woman's right to choose, despite the right's most vociferous efforts to change that. So why would that fail in the legislative arena?

that is not what the poll says. It says that the majority supports the right to choose in limited circumstances (and from what I read at the first set of numbers, more limited that exist today). Which is what I am advocating. Abortion on demand would fail in the legislatures and that poll evidences it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Consumer and service provider. I would put the focus and the more severe penalties on the latter. For a doctor, I'd say one strike and your license is out. Other than that I don't know-i have not fully examined the possibilities or the equities.

So if you had your way, your friends who had the partial-birth abortion would be in jail?

Nice.

Originally posted by Penske_Account
New Board Motto:

If a majority of Americans agreed with liberals on abortion, gay marriage, pornography, criminals’ rights, and property rights –liberals wouldn’t need the Supreme Court to give them everything they want through invented “constitutional” rights invisible to everyone but People For the American Way. It’s always good to remind voters that Democrats are the party of abortion, sodomy, and atheism and nothing presents an opportunity to do so like a Supreme Court nomination.

Thanks for posting that, since I would never read anything written by Coulter but still (inexplicably) have not placed you on ignore yet. It confirms that she is, indeed, just as mean, vicious and dumb as I always thought she was.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
It doesn't, but I have no respect for her parents if that's what you mean. They took a poor, screwed up girl (though I'm sure her anorexia had nothing to do with their parenting -- right?) who was private throughout her life and dragged her through the spotlight just to assuage their own personal feelings. They dragged her husband through the mud and accused him of murder.

In the real world of civilized, non-Penske people, casually accusing people of murder is considered bad. I realize it's like breathing for you.

They made what should have been a private, personal decision into a national spectacle, and they should be ashamed.

And I would gladly tell them that.



Cue the "murder liberal liberal murder dem party of blah blah blah blah" Penske bullshit. You became a caricature of yourself 50,000 posts ago.

If you can't see how disrespectful it is then you are beyond hope. Not just to her, not just to her family, but to anyone with a mental disability. It perpetuates a stereotype about mentally disabled people. Really funny, really compassionate, really humane. You are making retard jokes. Must feel really good. Congrats on that.