Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by NW Native
forgive me if I screw up fonts, etc.


2) my son (10) has never watched or played any show/game that includes dismemberment or killing people. I'd like to keep his experience of such to a minimum for a couple more years.

bottom line for me: school should have ensured that parents knew ahead of time and attendance was optional.

I don't think that FBers forgive, they just move on. And FBers don't have issues, just shit that bothers them. I just watch.

10 and hasn't viewed fake killing or dismemberment? My son (5) says that he should get a look at the decapitation in Jeepers Creepers 2 -- "yeah, cool."

I don't remember them asking my parent's permission to show me that 1950's-style "You and Your Body -- Becoming a Woman" bullshit film they made us watch in a girls-only locked room in 5th grade -- they should have.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by NW Native
2) my son (10) has never watched or played any show/game that includes dismemberment or killing people. I'd like to keep his experience of such to a minimum for a couple more years.

Yeah, and to my parents' knowledge I didn't have sugar cereal until age 11. Fat fucking chance. Unless you home school your kid and/or live on a commune that the kid has never set foot off of.

That said, I think an actual human arm is a bit much for totally unprepared 5th graders. Someone said "hey I dissected a cat in high school!" Well, bucko, in high school you were at least 14, and at least at my high school the dissecting-the-cat class wasn't available until your junior or senior year.

I think lots of kids would be fine with it, but imaginative kids, particularly ones who had perhaps been in a bad car accident or had friends or relatives in bad car accidents (or whatever) might be freaked out by the sudden appearance of a severed limb. I have a good friend who was in a horrific car accident at age 5 or 6, had to have several corrective surgeries in the ensuing years, and given her reaction to uncontrolled bleeding at age 14 or 15 or so, might have totally flipped at the sight of a severed arm at age 10. Granted, weird circumstances, but not entirely out there.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Okay, if you're going to leave me up here, can you do something to make Atticus shut up? LIke he's never received a swirly before. Sheesh.

In the universe of bullshit you and I can/do tell here, there have been degrees of believability. That you or I went to whatever school produced Atticus is, however, beyond the range of the plausible.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I have a good friend who was in a horrific car accident at age 5 or 6, had to have several corrective surgeries in the ensuing years, and given her reaction to uncontrolled bleeding at age 14 or 15 or so, might have totally flipped at the sight of a severed arm at age 10.

Fringe is right. Its fucked up, but that's how the world works. I know plenty of freaks who'd get off on the chance to hold a severed limb. But in real life, the arm always lands on the desk of someone with massive trauma issues.
Weird that.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
In the universe of bullshit you and I can/do tell here, there have been degrees of believability. That you or I went to whatever school produced Atticus is, however, beyond the range of the plausible.

You're probably right. I'm better off sticking with the world ruling shape shifting reptilian thing.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Fringe is right.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Fringe is right.

[ltl/fb]

Whoo hoo!

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I don't think that FBers forgive, they just move on. And FBers don't have issues, just shit that bothers them. I just watch.

10 and hasn't viewed fake killing or dismemberment? My son (5) says that he should get a look at the decapitation in Jeepers Creepers 2 -- "yeah, cool."

I don't remember them asking my parent's permission to show me that 1950's-style "You and Your Body -- Becoming a Woman" bullshit film they made us watch in a girls-only locked room in 5th grade -- they should have.

Don't forget the childbirth one. I wish I had known in advance, I'd have skipped that day.

That said, there will always be the fainter/more sensitive kid in any class.

When they gave Rubella shots (was that 5th grade, 6th grade?), the biggest kid in the class (we'll call him Carl), a guy who had been held back and was a year older than the rest of us, started to cry and shake and actually screamed when he saw the nurse/shot giving device. The rest of us laughed. I'm sure Carl was traumatized. Carl was a bully in the truest sense of the word due to his size. We never feared him after that.

[tmdiva]

Originally posted by NW Native
forgive me if I screw up fonts, etc.

I didn't notice any font issues, but I think someone (chevy?) already has that avatar. Not that he posts much, but still--I saw the avatar and assumed you were he until I noticed the subject line.

tm

[bilmore]

Originally posted by NW Native
2) my son (10) has never watched or played any show/game that includes dismemberment or killing people. I'd like to keep his experience of such to a minimum for a couple more years.

By the time the first kid here was ten, he'd already participated in several near-dismemberments and killings. They all involved his own body, fortunately (or unfortunately, I guess, depending on your viewpoint.)

That being said, though, while many - maybe most - ten-year-olds would probably do just fine with the corpse's-arm-in-class scenario, some small portion might not, and no one is in as good a position, or really has the right, to determine who is which as is a kid's parent. The discussion and decision of whether kids are ready is one that should be handled by those parents. Thus, on reflection, I come down hard on "get the damn permission slips signed first."

(P.S. Fonts look great, so you can stay. Just don't mess 'em up. But, you might have to switch the funny ID pic, as I think someone's already using Jack.)

[pretermitted_child]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Someone said "hey I dissected a cat in high school!"

That would be me.

Well, bucko, in high school you were at least 14, and at least at my high school the dissecting-the-cat class wasn't available until your junior or senior year.

Well, as a 5th-grader, I would not have been grossed out by a cat dissection. Neither would have some of my classmates, who seemed to have regressed to the 5th-grader mindset when they deviated from the dissection procedures by extracting the intestines from their cats and attempted to squeeze out poop onto each other's laboratory stations. I assure you that the extent of my interaction with the intestines of my cat was limited to poking at it, checking its elasticity, and wondering aloud how I would string it up on my violin (I was joking with my lab partner who didn't know that "catgut" strings actually consisted of sheep intestines).

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by tmdiva
I didn't notice any font issues, but I think someone (chevy?) already has that avatar. Not that he posts much, but still--I saw the avatar and assumed you were he until I noticed the subject line.

tm

It's one of the shared avatars that we placed on the system.


As far as arms* in school, no, I don't think that is a very good idea without some warning, I'm not sure it is a good idea with some warning. Not for 5th graders who are what 11? Give the kids and parents a choice at the very least.

It is one thing to see such things in movies or video games. Another to see it in real life.

I wasn't paying attention, don't know who was talking about a cat, but, when I was in AP Bio we got to deal with the cat too. I was 16 or 17 as I recall, and when we signed up for the course, we knew we would be doing it. It was a choice we made.

*I don't think other kinds of arms in school are a good idea either.

[andViolins]

Having a deer hit your car is not a fun experience.

But in a strange way, I felt very Bilmoresque.

aV

p.s. people fine. car for the most part is as well. Deer tottered off.

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