Fashion Board 4-6-04 to 5-7-04

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Whenever I'm on a plane, and they announce something about FAA regulations, I assume that I could go find those regulations in the CFR if I really cared to. Does anyone know if this is true? Does anyone know if the flight attendants keep their own well-read copy of the pertinent volume of the CFR in the galley?

At a guess, the FAA says that the airlines shall institute procedures for this and that, and what they FAs are calling FAA regs often are really airline policies instituted in accordance with the regs.

And next time you get pissed off that an FA tells you to move your child seat to the window seat, remember that some passenger probably sued the airline because he tripped over his own kid's seat and sprained his ankle when getting up to pee. In other words, it's always the lawyers' fault.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Whenever I'm on a plane, and they announce something about FAA regulations, I assume that I could go find those regulations in the CFR if I really cared to. Does anyone know if this is true? Does anyone know if the flight attendants keep their own well-read copy of the pertinent volume of the CFR in the galley?

Small volume. FAR. Fed Airline Regs. Every flight employee gets one.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
All this other crap:

"I understand that their worries are probably a source of amusement, and it's their problem, and fuck 'em if they can't take a joke, and they shouldn't be flying if they're that stoopid, and whatever else. But, no, you can talk over it."

is typical bilmore bullshit.

Boy, you are easily irritated. You and BnB have your cycles in synch?


(relax, people, I'm only teasing)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
God, I fucking hate lawyers - and everybody else - who acts like that. I had a buddy who used to tell people it was against the law to have credit card minimums.

Next time you see him you can tell him it isn't true. Then you'll be the alpha male of your little pack.

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
That's not the way I read it, but I don't much care. I'm not shedding any tears for the FA. It just seems like an awfully small thing to get so irritated over.

And if someone is unwilling to cooperate with an FA to the extent necessary to give an audible response, it would be entirely legitimate for the FA to conclude that that person would not be willing to listen to flight crew instructions in the event of an emergency (which you're supposed to do when you're in an exit row, even if the flight crew is bitchy).

Jesus man, has your ascension to partner affected you so greatly that you have to agree with whatever the man tells you to do? Sell out. Next thing you know, you're going to be telling me to pay my taxes and shit.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Oh, please. She got a rush from the power of saying "FAA regulations require that you answer audibly?"*

Undoubtedly she did get a power rush from telling BnB that she could move to another seat if she refused to comply with the (really simple) requirement of responding audibly to an inquiry. But are you suggesting that BnB didn't also get a little rush of power from her lawyerly (though probably incorrect) feeling of knowing the regs better than the silly FA?



*She was probably half-right about that -- it's probably airline policy instituted in response to FAA regs.

Apparently this would matter to you. I wasn't a lawyer at the time.

I didn't get a rush from telling her anything. I was dumbfounded that she said what she said. And thought that she was fucking with me. Which made me hate her.

My general hatred of flight attendants comes from countless experiences just like this one.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Ah yez. The example that doesn't apply to anything we've been talking about.

The example being, someone who couldn't hear because someone else was being noisy through the demo?

Yeah, clearly off base. Silly me.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
And if someone is unwilling to cooperate with an FA to the extent necessary to give an audible response, it would be entirely legitimate for the FA to conclude that that person would not be willing to listen to flight crew instructions in the event of an emergency (which you're supposed to do when you're in an exit row, even if the flight crew is bitchy).

Oh come on. Now you're stretching it. The next (pretty small) step in your argument is that she should have been moved or thrown off the flight.

"Can you say yes?"

is a bit different than

"Assume crash positions because we're all going to fucking die!"

Don't you think?

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Not to split hairs, but the above analogy is about as inaccurate as:

At least he's not a proselytyzing uber-religious, non-drinking Jesus freak (see: LessinSF).

Are you saying plated was not a tool? The dude was Alex P. Keaton. You can't be serious.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Jesus man, has your ascension to partner affected you so greatly that you have to agree with whatever the man tells you to do? Sell out. Next thing you know, you're going to be telling me to pay my taxes and shit.

First, it's Ascension with a capital A.

Second, I am the man now, and so I do believe people should do what the man says.

Third, don't talk to me about taxes. What do you think I'm so cranky lately?

Fourth, shouldn't you be billing?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
At a guess, the FAA says that the airlines shall institute procedures for this and that, and what they FAs are calling FAA regs often are really airline policies instituted in accordance with the regs.

Don't guess. If you want my business, you should be sending Atticus to the library so he can write a memo you'll slap your name on.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Boy, you are easily irritated. You and BnB have your cycles in synch?


(relax, people, I'm only teasing)

That's a bilmore quote. So, I don't understand your post.

And I'm relaxed. That was a simple statement of fact.

TM

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Oh come on. Now you're stretching it. The next (pretty small) step in your argument is that she should have been moved or thrown off the flight.

"Can you say yes?"

is a bit different than

"Assume crash positions because we're all going to fucking die!"

Don't you think?

TM

Yes, but the latter is different from "you stay here and make sure everyone gets out safely before you get out..... oh, wait -- you're the bitch who was too self-centered even to say "yes" audibly for me. Nice tits."

[Not Bob]

As much fun as it is to debate airline behavior, it's time for some hockey.

Hank, your Little Ceasar's theory on how to curse the fucking Red Wings failed. I ate crappy pizza for nothing. NOTHING! Last night therefore sucked. I blame you, Hank. You.

Tonight, ah tonight -- big games in the East. Huge. Leafs versus Ottowa. And the Devils versus the Flyers.

Air Canada (oops, an airline mention!) CentRE will be rocking tonight. What a game. Can Belfour's back hold up? Will Leetch score? Can the pitiful (other than Leetch) Toronto blue line stop the Ottowa offense?

In the other big game, will the hated Devils make the face-painted Puddy a happy man? Will the gamble of Not Bobby Clarke ("goalies? I don't need no stinkin goalies!") backfire? Can JR slip one past Mahr-taaan? Wouldn't you like to see them both lose?

Not Bob's prediction? Toronto and New Jersey win. (As for the other games, who really cares?)

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by bilmore
The example being, someone who couldn't hear because someone else was being noisy through the demo?

Yeah, clearly off base. Silly me.

Not silly. Intentionally stupid and hard headed.

Bnb was talking.
The announcements were made, probably using a microphone.
Someone on your flight was drunk and yelling.

The two things are unrelated and you only brought up your example because you are bilmore.

TM