Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Gattigap]

Wow.

Not a bad speech for a skinny kid with a funny name.

Gattigap

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Wow.

Not a bad speech for a skinny kid with a funny name.

Gattigap

I thought it was interesting when he was going off about how there is no White America and no Black America and no Asian America, just America. While I agree, I can't help but remark on the fact that despite this, blacks insist on the devisive label African American. I don't call myself a white american. I call myself an American. Blacks should cut this nonsense out and listen to Barack.

[Not Me]

Teresa sure is impressed with herself now isn't she. Remind me again, is she running for president or is her husband?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
I thought it was interesting when he was going off about how there is no White America and no Black America and no Asian America, just America. While I agree, I can't help but remark on the fact that despite this, blacks insist on the devisive label African American. I don't call myself a white american. I call myself an American. Blacks should cut this nonsense out and listen to Barack.

If you decide tomorrow that you want to be called a white American, other people should have the respect for you to call you what you want to be called instead of telling you what they think you should be called.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you decide tomorrow that you want to be called a white American, other people should have the respect for you to call you what you want to be called instead of telling you what they think you should be called.

I want to be called Your Majesty.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Not Me
I thought it was interesting when he was going off about how there is no White America and no Black America and no Asian America, just America. While I agree, I can't help but remark on the fact that despite this, blacks insist on the devisive label African American. I don't call myself a white american. I call myself an American. Blacks should cut this nonsense out and listen to Barack.

This sock is full of shit and starting to reek.

The people who still insist on Hyphenated-American labels are predominantly the ones who got called the most odious racist terms in the past, and who understand that a not inconsiderable portion of non-hyphenated Americans are itching to return to calling them niggers, spics, chinks, wops, micks, polacks, and what-have-you. Neutral descriptors came about as a reasonable alternative, and trust me, we still need to remind the more obstreperous elements of our society that we have agreed on a respectful terminology. I have to remind family members of that, and we belong to a hyphenated category.

The pseudo-pioneers who urge the abandonment of all descriptive racial labels tend to be members of racial groups that never had to put up with non-descriptive race labels, which is the real nonsense.

I heard Obama's speech and found it inspiring. But I don't think it will cause American race consciousness to skulk into the dustbin of history.

P.S. Penske, have the decency to call the man by his last name.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
I want to be called Your Majesty.

In that case, I will return to exercising my constitutional right to ignore you.

[Not Me]

Anyone else notice how they had old Teddy boy on early in the evening? I think they were afraid if they had him on any later in the night he would have had a hard time well let's just say staying dry, IYKWIM :beer:

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
In that case, I will return to exercising my constitutional right to ignore you.

I honestly think this is best for your health as I know I raise your blood pressure. As if that is the only thing of yours I raise.*

* Pig.

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
I heard Obama's speech and found it inspiring.

Kevin Drum was not as impressed. To wit

• OBAMA....Hey, that Obama guy is pretty good! The actual content of his speech was pretty close to zero, but that's fine for a convention keynote. He had lots of good lines, great delivery, and worked the crowd well.
  
  Biggest applause line (as near as I could tell): "When an Arab American is rounded up without benefit of an attorney, it threatens my civil rights too."
  
  At least, I think that was the line that got the biggest applause. But I'm not sure if C-SPAN switches the mikes to pick up crowd noise at certain points, or if the noise coming out of my TV set is really a consistent indicator of what it sounds like on the floor. Does anyone happen to know?
  
  UPDATE: A bunch of people in the comment thread didn't get this, so let me just clear something up: by "content" all I meant was policy content. And like I said, that's fine in a speech like this.
  
  And while a single good speech may not automatically make someone a star, this was a pretty damn good speech, tugging all the right heartstrings and getting deep into the core values that liberals hold dear. At this point, political superstardom is his to lose.
  
  UPDATE 2: OK, OK, I give in. It was the best Democratic speech since FDR's first inaugural address. Can we stop the pummelling now? Pretty please?
  
  In return, for your pummelling pleasure, here is Roger Clegg's galactically condescending review of Obama's speech in The Corner:

Barack Obama gave a fine speech, but it was not a speech that reflects the current Democratic Party. It celebrated America as "a magical place"; it did not bemoan our racism and imperialism. It professed that this black man "owe[d] a debt to those who came before" him; it did not call for reparations. It spoke of an "awesome God"; it did not banish Him from public discourse. It admitted that black parents, and black culture, need to change the way black children are raised; it did not blame or even mention racism. It quoted "E pluribus unum" and translated it correctly as "Out of many, one"; it did not misquote it, as Al Gore infamously did, as "Many out of one." Most of all, the speech celebrated one America, "one people," and rejected the notion of a black America, a white America, a Latino America, and an Asian America--a notion completely foreign to the multiculturalism that now dominates the Democratic Party.

• Boy, Clegg is a real hack, isn't he? So, um, maybe we can all start picking on him instead? Yeah, that's the ticket....

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
The people who still insist on Hyphenated-American labels are predominantly the ones who got called the most odious racist terms in the past, and who understand that a not inconsiderable portion of non-hyphenated Americans are itching to return to calling them niggers, spics, chinks, wops, micks, polacks, and what-have-you.

Last I checked the polocks who are in this country for more than one generation aren't calling themselves Polish Americans. Same with the chinks, micks, wops and spics who aren't fresh off the boat. It is only the blacks that have been in this country for generations that have this label problem. I wonder how great they would have it if their ancestors had never left Africa. Oh, never mind, I know the answer to that by looking at Liberia, the country founded by former slaves that returned to Africa and well, the rest of Africa populated by those who weren't fortunate enough to have ancestors who were taken to North America.

[Atticus Grinch]

I just read on the BBC site that Médecins Sans Frontières is pulling out of Afghanistan because of poor security.

Wonderful. What a success story that has been.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
This sock is full of shit and starting to reek.

The people who still insist on Hyphenated-American labels are predominantly the ones who got called the most odious racist terms in the past, and who understand that a not inconsiderable portion of non-hyphenated Americans are itching to return to calling them niggers, spics, chinks, wops, micks, polacks, and what-have-you. Neutral descriptors came about as a reasonable alternative, and trust me, we still need to remind the more obstreperous elements of our society that we have agreed on a respectful terminology. I have to remind family members of that, and we belong to a hyphenated category.

The pseudo-pioneers who urge the abandonment of all descriptive racial labels tend to be members of racial groups that never had to put up with non-descriptive race labels, which is the real nonsense.

I heard Obama's speech and found it inspiring. But I don't think it will cause American race consciousness to skulk into the dustbin of history.

P.S. Penske, have the decency to call the man by his last name.

I have a different take. My black friends don't refer to themselves as African American. Their position is that they've never been to Africa and don't relate to that as a descriptive term. They like to be referred to simply as black, if necessary, but really just as friend, or attorney, or whatever.

I think that the hyphens are predominately perpetuated by the white, pc crowd.

efs

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I just read on the BBC site that Médecins Sans Frontières is pulling out of Afghanistan because of poor security.

Wonderful. What a success story that has been.

Many bloggers recently have been telling a different story. Instapundit, for example, had a long series of links recently that may change your mind.

[SlaveNoMore]

My personal view:

1. He's really good up there. Best podium speaker so far, other than Clinton* And immediately likeable.

2. Notwithstanding, the speech was mere "puppy dogs and ice cream." And his anti-devisive exhortations ring a little hollow after Teddy's venomous spew.

3. When I left the room, I immediately realized that he sounds a lot like The Rock.


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* And since we only have Edwards and Kerry to look forward to, I think he's a lock to stay at #2