A sad, constant bid for attention - Page 32

taxwonk · 09-23-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Paisley
That is a wonderful idea! Thank you!

You're welcome. this place has them for a very good price.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 09-24-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Paisley
Now there's an idea!

Boudoir photos? You can get some "G" ones of you and the kids done at the same time for the public unwrapping.

ltl/fb · 09-24-2006, 07:11 PM

Boo sunburn.

Tables R Us · 09-24-2006, 07:17 PM

Ali G interviews a feminism professor and says Feminism "isn't only about having sex with other women."

Here's a link to the You Tube Video.

Tables R Us · 09-24-2006, 07:49 PM

These feminists have a trucker's aesthetic. Or at least they fund their operations by appealing to one. They use the ubiquitous mudflap girl of trucking fame as a logo to sell merchandise.

Their tank tops:

Their fridge magnets:

pony_trekker · 09-24-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Boo sunburn.

Everywhere?

ltl/fb · 09-24-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Everywhere?

Of course not. I was in Santa Monica on a public beach. And I had sunscreen on my face and arms. It will have faded to a tan by tomorrow, most likely.

ThurgreedMarshall · 09-25-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
was Fergie someone before, or was it just "let's put an arguably hot girl in the band?"

I have no idea.

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I guess I could see that as a bad decision, but sell out?

Are you asking me if they sold out or remarking that selling out in this way was a bad decision?

TM

ThurgreedMarshall · 09-25-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
He does not respond well to physical aggression, and I think the events of the evening leading up to this (he had been in trouble earlier and handled, which is never the right approach with him) probably set the stage. The only way to keep him behaving is to be the calm alpha, no-nonsense, but no raised voices or physical encounters.

I once had a dog that would listen for awhile and then revert to way-too-independent behavior and when she misbehaved, we would simply pin her on the floor, hold her still (without hurting her) and talk calmly until we figured she got the picture. This seemed to work.

TM

nononono · 09-25-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
About six years ago, my then-husband brought home a dog that he had seen injured while racing. In fact, he carried her off the track, to the orthopedic surgeon's office, where we spent a small fortune on surgery and rehabilitation.

Problem was, we already had two retired racers at home already. And we'd already had a pretty established pack order going on.

Within 2 weeks of bringing the new dog into our house, she made everyone of us bleed at one point or another. She and our other (alpha-ish) female really went at it, in a way that was actually pretty scary. Our male dog got bitten once and let it be known that he'd stay out of her way. She bit my then-husband while he tried to rescue her from some metal grillwork she'd gotten stuck in. Me, she bit a couple of times for really no apparent reason.

I remember sitting on the couch with then-husband and having a discussion with him that basically went "Well, if we can't make her a pet, no one can. So the choices are, figure out how to make her a pet or put her down."*

I'm happy to say that she's lying at my feet at the moment, happily snoring away. (I am less happy to report that she is also farting up a storm.)

Some of it was dogged (heh!) determination to make it work. Some of it was stupidity. You've gotten pretty good advice here. Don't be afraid to ask breed-specific listservs for advice. My dog spent a fair amount of time in a crate and in a muzzle at first. It was a way to moderate her temper and her propensity to bite when she got frightened or overwhelmed.

I will say she is mosly a love now, except for every once in a while when she will bark at me or show me her teeth. She'll instantly be remorseful, and there is no question who is in charge in this house. But every now and then, she does slip.

Still, she's a good dog. And I'm not sorry I put in the work to make her part of my family.

*I am not suggesting that we were model dog owners, or the only dog owners who knew what they were doing. But we already had 2 of these dogs, and were really involved in breed rescue and knew a lot about the dogs (both ours and the breed in general). At the time, it seemed like if people like us couldn't make it work, foisting her on someone else would have been unfair. At best.

Thanks, bnb - neither my ex- nor I want to put him down (though this is not his first incident, it is the first of this much ferocity - my leg is still black and blue where he bit), and I think it's on us to try what we can to make it work. I'm not sure it will ever be an easy peace, and I don't want the whole family to have to tiptoe around the scary dog, but I am somewhat hopeful.

nononono · 09-25-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I once had a dog that would listen for awhile and then revert to way-too-independent behavior and when she misbehaved, we would simply pin her on the floor, hold her still (without hurting her) and talk calmly until we figured she got the picture. This seemed to work.

TM

Used to do that with him - and the only one who could alpha-roll him was me. But it seems to make him worse - likely to misbehave and be edgy later. Besides, and maybe he knows this, after the whole lunging and biting thing, I'm not feeling like getting that close to him. He seems to respond best to being required to keep a leash on at all times, being required to do exercises at my behest, etc. That seems sort of to train his mind to be responsive and obedient. Until the kiddies have goldfish crackers again, anyway, which he will risk life and limb to steal.

patentparanyc · 09-25-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by nononono
Thanks, bnb - neither my ex- nor I want to put him down (though this is not his first incident, it is the first of this much ferocity - my leg is still black and blue where he bit), and I think it's on us to try what we can to make it work. I'm not sure it will ever be an easy peace, and I don't want the whole family to have to tiptoe around the scary dog, but I am soewhat hopeful.

it is hard since the kids would prob be upset if you get rid of doggie. tough call.

Hank Chinaski · 09-25-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I once had a dog that would listen for awhile and then revert to way-too-independent behavior and when she misbehaved, we would simply pin her on the floor, hold her still (without hurting her) and talk calmly until we figured she got the picture. This seemed to work.

TM

our dog trainer taught this technique for behavior modification:

empty out a closet- the smaller the better, and no light. when the dog does something you want to stop- (this dog was biting right?). Scream "NO!" and drag him directly to the closet. Leave him there for 20 minutes. After 20 minutes let him out. Do not immediately start hugging him.

This stops anything pretty quickly.

Hank Chinaski · 09-25-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Are you asking me if they sold out or remarking that selling out in this way was a bad decision?

TM

I don't know.

I did learn (re-learn) this weekend that Peter Tosh was dead.

Penske_Account · 09-25-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
our dog trainer taught this technique for behavior modification:

empty out a closet- the smaller the better, and no light. when the dog does something you want to stop- (this dog was biting right?). Scream "NO!" and drag him directly to the closet. Leave him there for 20 minutes. After 20 minutes let him out. Do not immediately start hugging him.

This stops anything pretty quickly.

Perhaps a way to break Ty of boxed wine?