A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
No, those would just be characteristics that would subject them to heightened scrutiny. At least until we win the clash of civilisations.

I have been to the Alhambra. Close enough?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Spank, I don't even know what a good moderator is. A few months ago I apologized for things I said about Ty generally.

Today I pointed out that to spit at a person's feet is not nice- especially if one of those feet had been blown off. Ty had moved on to attacked the legless guy.

Later, Ty replied to, I think, Slave that Slave made attacks on people simply because those people disagreed with him. It struck me as just a tiny teeny bit hypocritical for ty to say that- so I equated Ty with Penske's most extreme sock. That's all I did.

Yes but none of us really know the facts. We believe this guy because he is for the war and Ty believes the people that say that this guy searches for controversy and makes this stuff up. The problem is none of us really know. He could go around to these demonstrations, try and get people to do bad things to him, and if they don't, just make it up that they do.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Spank, I don't even know what a good moderator is. A few months ago I apologized for things I said about Ty generally.

Today I pointed out that to spit at a person's feet is not nice- especially if one of those feet had been blown off. Ty had moved on to attacked the legless guy.

Later, Ty replied to, I think, Slave that Slave made attacks on people simply because those people disagreed with him. It struck me as just a tiny teeny bit hypocritical for ty to say that- so I equated Ty with Penske's most extreme sock. That's all I did.

Yes but none of us really know the facts. We believe this guy because he is for the war and Ty believes the people that say that this guy searches for controversy and makes this stuff up. The problem is none of us really know. He could go around to these demonstrations, try and get people to do bad things to him, and if they don't, just make it up that they do. He seems to have a lot more bad things happen to him than most vets in wheel chairs. But who knows. We choose to believe him because he helps our cause and Ty chooses to be sckeptical of what he says because he supports W.

If the standard for this board was a complete absence of bias and hyprocracy, none of us would be posting.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
Yes but none of us really know the facts. We believe this guy because he is for the war and Ty believes the people that say that this guy searches for controversy and makes this stuff up. The problem is none of us really know. He could go around to these demonstrations, try and get people to do bad things to him, and if they don't, just make it up that they do.

You, Sidd and i seem to look at it about the same then. I don't believe him- maybe he is lying.

I do believe spitting at someone's feet is bad. I do believe it hypocritical to attack a guy because he accuses an anti-war protester of spitting at the ground near him, then accuse Slave of making ad hominum attacks based solely on a person's politics.

And I think it especially silly since a complete answer would have been:

"Don't know if it is true, but I do agree there are some complete crazies out there on both sides capable of spitting on/near someone."

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
No, those would just be characteristics that would subject them to heightened scrutiny. At least until we win the clash of civilisations.

Damn. I've both been in a mosque and read sections of the Koran (I don't believe it is possible to read more than snippets, because it is truly tedious). So heightened scrutiny for me.

Of course, Bush has, too, so he'll have to submit to heightened scrutiny as well.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
Yes but none of us really know the facts. We believe this guy because he is for the war and Ty believes the people that say that this guy searches for controversy and makes this stuff up. The problem is none of us really know. He could go around to these demonstrations, try and get people to do bad things to him, and if they don't, just make it up that they do. He seems to have a lot more bad things happen to him than most vets in wheel chairs. But who knows. We choose to believe him because he helps our cause and Ty chooses to be sckeptical of what he says because he supports W.

If the standard for this board was a complete absence of bias and hyprocracy, none of us would be posting.

you make it difficult to respond with your dual post skills my brother.

People can be biased and hypocrits- god bless! but I might then post like I did. am I too sarcastic? perhaps I need to lighten up and not be mean to Ty when he is flat out a hypocrit? let me know Spank- you are my Iman.

PS I might buy and read the Koran. are there different versions?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I know Spanky is pro-Serbian, but is there any sign he likes other immigrants?

1) I think the border between Mexico and the United State should be just like the border between Poland and Mexico (and by the way, the GDP difference is almost the same). Buchanen wouldn't let in a single mexican if he could.

2) Buchanen thinks the US is superior to other countrys because our culture is superior. I think our culture is irrelevent. I think it is our national economic and political philosophies that make us superior. You add our political and economic philosophies to any culture and it will kick derriere

3) I am a Neocon. Buchanen is not.

4) I am for free trade. Buchanen is not.

5) I am a social libertarian. Buchanen is not.

Except for Noam Chomskey and Ralph Nader, it is hard for me to think of someone I disagree with more on the major issue.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
1) I think the border between Mexico and the United State should be just like the border between Poland and Mexico (and by the way, the GDP difference is almost the same). Buchanen wouldn't let in a single mexican if he could.

2) Buchanen thinks the US is superior to other countrys because our culture is superior. I think our culture is irrelevent. I think it is our national economic and political philosophies that make us superior. You add our political and economic philosophies to any culture and it will kick derriere

3) I am a Neocon. Buchanen is not.

4) I am for free trade. Buchanen is not.

5) I am a social libertarian. Buchanen is not.

Except for Noam Chomskey and Ralph Nader, it is hard for me to think of someone I disagree with more on the major issue.

I think all of the Rs here are pretty pro-israel. Isn't Buchanan not? I remember Mikey Moore saying he was basically a Nazi when explaining why Pat couldn't have over 1000 votes from a heavily jewish county in Fla. back in Nov 2000 (on the Daily Show)

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
1) I think the border between Mexico and the United State should be just like the border between Poland and Mexico

There's a border between Poland and Mexico?

Or you want to insert an ocean and Europe between us and Mexico?

Huh????

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I think all of the Rs here are pretty pro-israel. Isn't Buchanan not? I remember Mikey Moore saying he was basically a Nazi when explaining why Pat couldn't have over 1000 votes from a heavily jewish county in Fla. back in Nov 2000 (on the Daily Show)

I doubt that Buchanan is pro-Israel.

Also, I remember that long ago he was openly hostile to extraditing at least one Nazi, who had committed atrocities in the Baltic States (Estonia, I think?), to the Soviet Union. He had multiple reasons for this but it wasn't a position well received by many Jews, I suspect. I'm not sure if this was an isolated instance of him being overly concerned about Nazi war criminals.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you make it difficult to respond with your dual post skills my brother.

People can be biased and hypocrits- god bless! but I might then post like I did. am I too sarcastic? perhaps I need to lighten up and not be mean to Ty when he is flat out a hypocrit? let me know Spank- you are my Iman.

PS I might buy and read the Koran. are there different versions?

You were threatening to leave the board because of Ty's statements. That is what I was responding to. I didn't realize you were being sarcastic. People say I am too earnest and they may be right. But I enjoy reading both your posts and Ty's posts and didn't want you to leave nor do I want Ty to quit being a moderator. He puts a lot of work into it, it is a thankless task, and I am glad he is willing to fall on the sword for the rest of us. Sorry if I am getting to serious, but I just wanted to make sure the status quo would not change.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
There's a border between Poland and Mexico?

Or you want to insert an ocean and Europe between us and Mexico?

Huh????

Sorry - I mean Poland and Germany.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Ah, I understand -- if the hosts of a rally invite someone who committed treason, that means every person at the rally supports treason?

Not necessarily, but you are tacitly legitimatising the behaviour by creating an impression that a treasoner has something of merit to say. It's like inviting John Wayne Gacy to speak on childcare issues.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Damn. I've both been in a mosque and read sections of the Koran (I don't believe it is possible to read more than snippets, because it is truly tedious). So heightened scrutiny for me.

Of course, Bush has, too, so he'll have to submit to heightened scrutiny as well.

Yes, exactly, when Bush emigrates from his home country to the US and applies for citisenship he will be subject to heightened scrutiny.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore

The last few days have been amazing. Many - if not most - of you are always distancing yourselves from the moonbat left and decrying them as the outliers of the Dem party. "They are not our leaders" you say. "KOS and the DU are nutjobs," you say.

And yet, for some unknown reason, all of sudden a great deal of you seem compelled to rally around the clowns and defend the indefensible.

We live in strange times, indeed.

Not really. A lot of Lefties on this board share a lot of views with the Kos nuts. However, the Kos nuts have been branded imbeciles in the conventional wisdom of the moment, so the Lefties can't claim them without looking silly. What you're seeing when you really push any Lefty about Kos and DU is their true, almost subconscious allegiance of thought with those nuts coming to the surface.

These people don't like our country. They don't like what controls our country and deep down, they think we should try as much as possible for a society where no one's a loser. They're not capitalists.

They have a position, and its a philosophically valid one to argue. The problem is, our society doesn't accept soft socialism, so they're doomed to always be unsatisfied. Their positions are necessarily un-American. I can sympathize with them. It must suck to have to argue from that position.