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Old 01-04-2008, 01:19 AM   #4786
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I thought all the Dems pulled out of Michigan to punish us for changing the date.
You are right, and I had forgot that, but It seems a little unclear here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2008 - as to whether candidates cannot campaign there (or Florida) and/or whether their delegates cannot vote. Nonetheless, perceptions based upon the only two large states to vote before 2/5 may matter.
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I'm biased, but Obama rocked tonight, didn't he?
If this keeps up he's going to have to get himself a platform one of these days. I like the guy's somewhat centrist vibe, but "hope" and "change" are a little vague.

I want to bang Chuck Norris' wife (blonde behind Huckabee during speech).
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I'm biased, but Obama rocked tonight, didn't he?
Yep. Everything Obama needed to happen - young people, independents, some Republicans coming out to caucus who historically never do, but did tonight - happened. Big, big win.

And he gave a great speech.
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I want to bang Chuck Norris' wife (blonde behind Huckabee during speech).
Go for it. "Chuck Norris's tears cure cancer" may be the best answer Huckabee has for a health care platform.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:32 AM   #4790
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IMHO you don't have to explain this at all. I took it as you criticizing folks who see things only as "me, me, me, mine, mine, mine" taxwise. Hopefully, Sebby is on board with the idea that to be a municipality, state or country that functions well, then everyone has to ante up (in whatever way makes most sense) for not just schools but to rush your drunken ass to the hospital when your liver goes early. Spread out the risk. If someone truly wants to "keep" all of what he/she earned, that someone better move to Lancaster and grow a long beard where you can "opt out" and keep all your wood carved piggies to yourself.** Or you can go the illegal opt-out route and become a Hassidim (own schools/even private docs). Same long beard, but closer to the City and Yiddish is easier than German (plus you get speedy Lubuvitcher ambulance drivers instead of those damn slow horses). Until then, people who bitch about taxes in general are better served coming up with specific ways to make levying them "more fair."

**Of course, an opt out would never work or even a line-item tax bill since most would "opt out" of things like First Aid squad and other shit but then they'd cry foul when left 1/2 dead on the side of the road. It already happens with health care insurance opt-outs who show up in ER and demand free care anyway.
2. All government is essentially a risk pool. Either you want low premiums or you want covered claims. Can't have both. Period.

Libertarians don't have a good answer for who provides the schizophrenics with the padded room and who takes custody of the abused kids. Life ain't Little House on the Prairie. If you thought Victorian London was a paradise, vote Paul.
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Yep. Everything Obama needed to happen - young people, independents, some Republicans coming out to caucus who historically never do, but did tonight - happened. Big, big win.

And he gave a great speech.
didn't he say he wants to attack Iran? or is flat out lying okay for you guys?
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:37 AM   #4792
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I'm not aware of many Libertarians favoring abolition of the Court system.
Can you parse this for me? "Transitional Action: Repeal all laws that presume government knows better than the individual how to run that person’s life." Link. If you don't start with Article III, there's nowhere to start at all.
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2. All government is essentially a risk pool. Either you want low premiums or you want covered claims. Can't have both. Period.

Libertarians don't have a good answer for who provides the schizophrenics with the padded room and who takes custody of the abused kids. Life ain't Little House on the Prairie. If you thought Victorian London was a paradise, vote Paul.
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didn't he say he wants to attack Iran?
Was that a subliminal message in tonight's speech that I missed? Now that I think about it, I bought an awful lot of popcorn tonight.
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didn't he say he wants to attack Iran? or is flat out lying okay for you guys?
I don't remember that part. Bombing Pakistan, sure, but Iran?

Educate me.
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Can you parse this for me? "Transitional Action: Repeal all laws that presume government knows better than the individual how to run that person’s life." Link. If you don't start with Article III, there's nowhere to start at all.
are you saying that for Libertarians 9/11 wasn't even a simple crime?
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:43 AM   #4797
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Was that a subliminal message in tonight's speech that I missed? Now that I think about it, I bought an awful lot of popcorn tonight.
doesn't everything he said since starting to run count, or does he get a pass like Kerry did with his medals?
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:48 AM   #4798
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Shorter Iowa Analysis

  • Obama looks like he's won by a fairly significant margin. Romney, by contrast, has been caucus blocked.

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are you saying that for Libertarians 9/11 wasn't even a simple crime?
It's their fucking platform. Ask them whether it's empty rhetoric, not me.
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doesn't everything he said since starting to run count, or does he get a pass like Kerry did with his medals?
I never thought Kerry's military service was a reason to vote against him -- that was Slave.
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