Politics: A new beginning

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
Confidential to Ty: I think you might want to more carefully evaluate who you give your proxies to in the future. Just so you know, for a sufficient amount of cash and/or ass-kissing, I do accept proxies.

You'd better have some pretty sweet lips if you want my proxy.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
What about the sex part? The government did not create the baby. The people having sex did. Unless it is a rape case, or an 11 year old who didn't understand the consequences of sex, the people who created the baby knew damn well that one of the potential consequences of having sex was the creation of the baby.

So it's not a question of whether the fetus is a "human being", etc., after all, but a question of punishing people for having sex? Would you make up your mind? It's very hard to discuss these things with you if you're going to keep jumping around like this.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
So it's not a question of whether the fetus is a "human being", etc., after all, but a question of punishing people for having sex?

Huh?

She was making this involuntary-servitude type argument. She said:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
While still in utero, society has to force one specific individual, involuntarily, to support it, and that individual has independent rights.

She is making it out to be that the woman was just walking down the street minding her own business when along comes the government forcing her to take care of someone she doesn't want to take care of. To further prove my point, check out her analogy:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Some people would be OK with the gov't dropping of an infant on their door and saying "guess what, he's your own personal problem now, if you don't take good care of him we'll prosecute," but not many I'd wager.

Yeah, an unwanted pregnancy is alot like that hypo.

So I brought sex into the discussion to point out to her how her govenrment-forcing-you-into-involunary-servitude argument and her dropped-off-at-the-door analogy were flawed.

But it isn't about punishing people for having sex. It is about a person's role in bringing about the consequences that naturally flow from their actions. When the creation of a human life is the natural result of your actions and the only way to relieve you of the consequence of you actions is to allow you to end another's life, preventing you from ending that life isn't punishing you, but it is protecting the life you created. There is a difference.

If this really was a balancing of the rights in your mind, you would get that.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Yet the man obviously knows how to relax. Or, did. in the 1960s and 70s. I think he played Pink in "Dazed and Confused."

Is that him? If so, my question is how did he end up with such a horse-faced wife? Or was she much better looking when she was younger, too?

Or maybe she was a one-night stand and got pregnant before RvW was the law of the land?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
You'd better have some pretty sweet lips if you want my proxy.

I really hate it when you are buzzed and I am sober.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
Or maybe she was a one-night stand and got pregnant before RvW was the law of the land?

I thought you were arguing against RvW. Please be consistent.

[Not Me]

Predictable but still notable.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA2GSKBTPD.html

Defense attorney Pamela Mackey said during a motions hearing Friday that there is a long history of white women falsely accusing black men of rape.

"My client stands accused of a very serious crime. There is lots of history about black men being falsely accused of this crime by white women," Mackey said as several family members of the accuser looked on. She did not address the issue further.

[Not Me]

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA8A2KBTPD.html

Power Struggle in Polygamist Town Prompts Investigation

COLORADO CITY, Ariz. - A power struggle has emerged in a small, tightlipped community known for polygamy, with a number of men getting kicked out of the church-owned town and their wives and children being "reassigned" against their will to other men.

Now authorities in Arizona and Utah are stepping up their years-long investigation into the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, with the family "reassignments" sparking concerns of forced marriage of underage girls.

Women and children are considered property and have no rights under church laws.

[Not Me]

So tell me how mentioning Auschwitz is really anti-Israel and not anti-jew.*

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAWP5HBTPD.html

ROME - Soccer hooligans - not exactly known for well-mannered behavior - committed a memorably despicable act at a Rome stadium a few years back, holding up a vast banner at opposing Jewish fans: "Auschwitz Is Your Country; the Ovens Are Your Homes."

In the past three years, Jews in Europe have suffered assaults, synagogues have been targeted and, on one occasion, teenagers on an amateur Jewish soccer team were attacked with sticks and metal bars.

*I am talking to you, Ty.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Musi....ap/index.html

• OAK PARK, Michigan (AP) -- A 16-year-old boy dragged Eminem's mother from her car on the street made infamous by the rapper's movie "8-Mile," according to police.

[Dave]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Musi....ap/index.html

• OAK PARK, Michigan (AP) -- A 16-year-old boy dragged Eminem's mother from her car on the street made infamous by the rapper's movie "8-Mile," according to police.

If this were on that other board, it is inevitable that someone would notice that the 'jacking took place on 8 Mile Road, and would post something along the lines of, 'isn't THAT ironic'.


Speaking of getting jacked, what's the conventional wisdom on how many miserable primary/caucus showings will be required for the realistic Dem candidates* to drop out?

We know that it only took one to send Gephardt to the bench (and as a resident of a state heavily targeted by his TV ads, goodbye and good riddance). Will Dean, Clark, Edwards, Kerry and Sharpton (comic relief) stay in to try to keep influence at the convention?

Late night TV hosts must be wetting themselves over that possibility.



* I could give a rip if Kucinich swears he's in till the bitter end. He's probably still trailing Carol Moseley Braun in Cleveland.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Musi....ap/index.html

• OAK PARK, Michigan (AP) -- A 16-year-old boy dragged Eminem's mother from her car on the street made infamous by the rapper's movie "8-Mile," according to police.

I thought the name/face of juvenile suspects were kept confidential

[Dave]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I thought the name/face of juvenile suspects were kept confidential

Once you're charged as an adult, it's open season, especially if you're unlucky enough to victimize someone within seven degrees of separation of any celebrity.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I thought you were arguing against RvW. Please be consistent.

Not me is a white guy pretending to be a black woman. I'm a black woman pretending to be a white guy. You're a junior high school student in Manitoba pretending to be an important Texas lawyer.
And What bothers you in all this is when someone takes a slightly inconsistant position than they had taken previously?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Not Me
Is that him? If so, my question is how did he end up with such a horse-faced wife? Or was she much better looking when she was younger, too?

Or maybe she was a one-night stand and got pregnant before RvW was the law of the land?

Carefull. There are some around here that will use convoluted logic to accuse you of being antisemetic for a post like this.