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[J. Fred Muggs]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But if you do this, fire the bullet between her fucking eyes. You can't half ass this shit.

So fuck her up. You're not getting her back, at least not fully, ever. If she's fucking someone else, she's not in the marriage anymore.

Make sure you burn her passport.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by ironweed
On another note, anyone visiting New York in the near future (meaning warm weather, or, in the somewhat more distant future, after the end of this current period of warm weather and the advent of another, similar period) would be doing themselves a serious disservice by failing to visit The Bohemian Beer Hall and Garden in lovely Astoria, Queens. Believe me when I say it is a paradise of shady-tree sitting, big mugs of very good cheap Czech beer-drinking, grilled kielbasa-eating goodness. In fact, I will bring you there and buy the first pitcher assuming that I am not barred from the place after what happened this weekend.

You, sir, are the rogue prince of the FB! I have no doubt that they will be talking about the legendary antics Ironweed the Great for years to come at Astoria's Bohemian Beer Hall and Garden. And could any place be more appropriately named for your outlandish drunken pranksterism than the "Bohemian" Beer hall??? You are the Ken Kesey of our generation.

[cuckold]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Was there something else going on that made you think that there'd be incrimidating stuff deeper into the e-mail account?

Just enough. Something about having had to rush off in the morning to beat traffic. Then some other innocent on their face e-mails about meeting up. Other things in the relationship have made me a little paranoid, so I went for the full online archive.

[cuckold]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Of course, the other option is to role play with Bill. You pretend you're Todd Bertuzzi and he pretends he's Steve Moore.




While I don't condone blindside punches in hockey I do think they would be approproate in this case. Where "he has been working on her" Bill should get shot, or at least his ass kicked.

I have strongly contemplated this line of action over the past two days. If I got to him before they found out I know I think I could put him on the floor before he knew what was happening. If I let the cat out of the bag before I'm in the room with him, though, it could be a little tricky. Just getting in the same room with him.

Another reason to hold off showing my cards just yet.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Not Bob
And if you can't, feel free to wallow in booze. Country songs are good to listen to at this point (and no other point), because they are so often about betrayal of love and trust.

"At no other point"? You're full of shit. Every weekend you get shitfaced on Lancers in the rumpus room listening to Gordon Lightfoot on vinyl, WHETHER OR NOT someone has recently cheated on your terrycloth covered ass.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by cuckold
I have strongly contemplated this line of action over the past two days. If I got to him before they found out I know I think I could put him on the floor before he knew what was happening. If I let the cat out of the bag before I'm in the room with him, though, it could be a little tricky. Just getting in the same room with him.

Another reason to hold off showing my cards just yet.

Pony's dead right here. Its one thing for two people to suddenly fall in love and have an affair. You can't attack Bill under those circumstances... But if the motherfucker's been working on your wife, man... I'd rarely suggest this, but punching the cocksucker square in the nose is not outside the realm of responses.

But you'll get revenge on Bill anyway.... He's going to wind up having to foot the bill for her initial expenses when you drain the accounts. And he's going to have to listen to her cry and howl about whats happening when tshe gets surprised. And he's going to be stuck with a serious relationship where all he thought he was getting was a few fast three ways. In the end, it sucks for all three of you pretty badly. But you get to cruise out guilt free, whereas your wife gets stuck agonizing over whether her choices fucked up her life when she's got to raise the kids alone later. You're just a guy who was dealt bad cards and did the best he could with them.

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Pony's dead right here. Its one thing for two people to suddenly fall in love and have an affair. You can't attack Bill under those circumstances... But if the motherfucker's been working on your wife, man... I'd rarely suggest this, but punching the cocksucker square in the nose is not outside the realm of responses.

But you'll get revenge on Bill anyway.... He's going to wind up having to foot the bill for her initial expenses when you drain the accounts. And he's going to have to listen to her cry and howl about whats happening when tshe gets surprised. And he's going to be stuck with a serious relationship where all he thought he was getting was a few fast three ways. In the end, it sucks for all three of you pretty badly. But you get to cruise out guilt free, whereas your wife gets stuck agonizing over whether her choices fucked up her life when she's got to raise the kids alone later. You're just a guy who was dealt bad cards and did the best he could with them.

Problem is, is if her family has money to hire a decent lawyer and you smacked the shit out of this dirtbag you may not see your kids for a while.

I do think it's appropriate to tell the kids at some point that the reason mommy and daddy aren't together is because mommy is a dirty fucking whore and bill is a cheating scumbag.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield



So fuck her up. You're not getting her back, at least not fully, ever. If she's fucking someone else, she's not in the marriage anymore. Sorry to be that cold, but thats true. You're probably a nice guy (actually, your quote about losing the $5k to a girlfriend proves you gullibly so). You deserve a better gig than spending your life with someone who isn't into you as much as you're into her.

1. Is it possible, just maybe, that cuckold is somehow also responsible for what's happened in his marriage? Maybe there are issues that he hasn't addressed, maybe he treats his wife in a way she doesn't want to be treated, maybe he's left the marriage a bit too? I mean, seriouslly, Sebby, you're a smart guy but you miss the point here. His wife didn't cheat (if she in fact did, and I have yet to hear anything that confirms that she did) in a vaccuum. It's not all her fault. cuckold likely has some responsibility in this. So going all Marcellus Wallace on her ass probably isn't a reasonable thing to do.

2. There are children involved. To fuck her up fucks them up. And fucks up his future relationship with his kids.

3. I agree about one thing. He deserves a better gig than spending his life with someone who isn't as much into him as he is into her. Everyone does.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Pony's dead right here. Its one thing for two people to suddenly fall in love and have an affair. You can't attack Bill under those circumstances... But if the motherfucker's been working on your wife, man... I'd rarely suggest this, but punching the cocksucker square in the nose is not outside the realm of responses.

But you'll get revenge on Bill anyway.... He's going to wind up having to foot the bill for her initial expenses when you drain the accounts. And he's going to have to listen to her cry and howl about whats happening when tshe gets surprised. And he's going to be stuck with a serious relationship where all he thought he was getting was a few fast three ways. In the end, it sucks for all three of you pretty badly. But you get to cruise out guilt free, whereas your wife gets stuck agonizing over whether her choices fucked up her life when she's got to raise the kids alone later. You're just a guy who was dealt bad cards and did the best he could with them.

Plus, once he doesn't have custody of the kids anymore, he can drop the Country Club dues!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
I do think it's appropriate to tell the kids at some point that the reason mommy and daddy aren't together is because mommy is a dirty fucking whore and bill is a cheating scumbag.

Sure- he's gotta do that. I mean he needs to be prepared for his daughter to end up in cheap pornos when she turns 18, but still he does need to let her know the Whys.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
1. Is it possible, just maybe, that cuckold is somehow also responsible for what's happened in his marriage? Maybe there are issues that he hasn't addressed, maybe he treats his wife in a way she doesn't want to be treated, maybe he's left the marriage a bit too? I mean, seriouslly, Sebby, you're a smart guy but you miss the point here. His wife didn't cheat (if she in fact did, and I have yet to hear anything that confirms that she did) in a vaccuum. It's not all her fault. cuckold likely has some responsibility in this. So going all Marcellus Wallace on her ass probably isn't a reasonable thing to do.

2. There are children involved. To fuck her up fucks them up. And fucks up his future relationship with his kids.

3. I agree about one thing. He deserves a better gig than spending his life with someone who isn't as much into him as he is into her. Everyone does.

You're absolutely right. Cuckold did something wrong. And it was wrong of me and everyone else to gloss over that. Clearly, his wife is looking for something he didn't provide. And she's only human.

BUT, there are ways to address issues and ways not to address issues. She decided to try to keep the marriage and fuck around. Thats not wise unless you know your spouse is one of those people who'll turn a blind eye to cheating (I have a couple of female friends who have to know their spouses are messing around, but stick with the guys because they like the cash/married bit and/or are too afraid to leave). Some folks can cheat their whole lives and still keep a marriage, but its a really inappropriate way to handle things. You basically live a loveless fake marriage.

Cuckold's wife isn't worthy of a beat down for cheating. She's worthy of a beat down for lying and not just divorcing Cuckold when the relationship soured. At a minimum, she should have told him she wasn't happy and that she needed the split. If she did (its not in the hypo yet), then Cuckold has nothing to gripe about now.

The problem with a lot of women in these situations is they don't come right the fuck out and say what they feel. This may sound sexist, but women seem to be more passive aggressive. They let the bad shit build and then handle it poorly, whereas a guy is used to just confronting an issue and having a blow-up over it. I have no doubt that Cuckold's wife thinks her pronouncement that there were "problems" was basically a soft declaration that they'd be separating. She was trying to split, but not split at the same time. She wanted to try out someone else, yet not lose her marriage. Problem is, marriages don't work that way. She needed to either say "We're done" or "We have to work this out." She chickened out and instead pulled some backdoor shit. That's lousy. Shit or get off the pot. Either dump him or stay with him, but trying to do both is just criminally stupid. And at our age, people should know that trick never works (unless your spouse is a Casper Milquetoast worthy of absolutely no respect).

As to pummeling her in the courts, I don't know any other way to litigate anything. You either get ahead and force the other side to chase you or you'll forever play catch up.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Fuck that conformist shit. At my wedding I made the band leave its horn section AT HOME!

I think I love you.

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The problem with a lot of women in these situations is they don't come right the fuck out and say what they feel. This may sound sexist, but women seem to be more passive aggressive. They let the bad shit build and then handle it poorly, whereas a guy is used to just confronting an issue and having a blow-up over it.

You're such a pig!

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
As to pummeling her in the courts, I don't know any other way to litigate anything. You either get ahead and force the other side to chase you or you'll forever play catch up.

You must be engaging in a wee bit of hyperbole here.

Anyhoo, bn'b is right. Playing hardball in a divorce will fuck up the kids. Are they more important than you? If they are, then you do what is best for them, not your wounded pride.

If the strumpet is a stay at home mom or is with the kids more than cuckold, and is good with the kids, and the kids are under 10, then you take your lumps -- she gets the house and primary residential custody or whatever your state calls it. Cuckold said that he is a full-time GA -- he shouldn't fight for custody of kids who need their mother and who he doesn't have time to be with just because he's mad that his wife pegged bill on their marital bed one afternoon.

If cuckold is worried about strumpet and bill spending his coin, then he should move the money. But it will probably be considered a marital asset, and if strumpet doesn't work then he'll probably be stroking a check to her for temporary alimony anyway.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Not Bob
You must be engaging in a wee bit of hyperbole here.

Biggest mistake you can ever make is to litigate half way. You know this. A client who files a suit and then isn't prepared to run it all the way to the bloody end will never get the proper result. You either do it or you don't.

But then, I litigated business disputes. I know nothing about how one strategizes a divorce action. My pro bono custody case years ago was very fulfilling, but taught me to never get near family court again for as long as I live.