Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Perjury or violation of the IIPA, it doesn't matter - the question is, What wine should I be drinking as I watch Scooter and the traitor Karl Rove do the perp walk?

Given this is the apparent direction of the investigation, why won't miller cut a deal like russert to say something like "I never provided the name of Valerie Plame to anyone in the whitehouse before its publication by Novak"?

That's all fitzgerald needs. she doesn't have to give up a source, and gets out of jail.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Given this is the apparent direction of the investigation, why won't miller cut a deal like russert to say something like "I never provided the name of Valerie Plame to anyone in the whitehouse before its publication by Novak"?

That's all fitzgerald needs. she doesn't have to give up a source, and gets out of jail.

I would have to guess, but maybe that's not enough for Fitzgerald. He may want to know who she talked to, and what was said. If all she says is what you suggest, it only says that she didn't do anything wrong - which I would guess is what she's been saying all along.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I would have to guess, but maybe that's not enough for Fitzgerald. He may want to know who she talked to, and what was said. If all she says is what you suggest, it only says that she didn't do anything wrong - which I would guess is what she's been saying all along.

I agree he might want that. But the defense that libby and rove are apparently working on (according to your article) is that they got the name from a reporter, rather than the internal WH memo, noting the name as secret. It provides two defenses: 1) they didn't reveal secrets; 2) even if it were a secret, it really wasn't because novak et al. knew.

So, if Miller can say she didn't supply the name, that cuts off the defense they have. So what if she didn't supply the name specifically to Rove and/or Libby. Ruling out all rules out those two.

Of course, it may be that she couldn't make the statement I propose because it's not true.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Of course, it may be that she couldn't make the statement I propose because it's not true.

And the noose loosens . . .

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
And the noose loosens . . .

Rove has a big, fat neck. The noose will have to get a lot looser.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I agree he might want that. But the defense that libby and rove are apparently working on (according to your article) is that they got the name from a reporter, rather than the internal WH memo, noting the name as secret. It provides two defenses: 1) they didn't reveal secrets; 2) even if it were a secret, it really wasn't because novak et al. knew.

So, if Miller can say she didn't supply the name, that cuts off the defense they have. So what if she didn't supply the name specifically to Rove and/or Libby. Ruling out all rules out those two.

Of course, it may be that she couldn't make the statement I propose because it's not true.

If she gets out of jail with that, it gets Fitzgerald part of what he wants, but perhaps he's after more. The appellate opinion apparently says F. knows who she talked to in the WH, and he may want to know what was said, not just what was not said.

Remember, there's no love lost between F. and Miller. F. probably is in no hurry to get Miller out of jail. F. believes that Miller tipped off several Muslim charities that he was investigating in 2001 just before the Feds arrived with subpoenas, and the charities were allegedly able to destroy a lot of evidence as a result.

[Penske_Account]

Does anyone know if Rehnquist is dead yet? I heard rumour W may get a second nomination before the day is out.......more to follow.....

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Does anyone know if Rehnquist is dead yet? I heard rumour W may get a second nomination before the day is out.......more to follow.....

Rehnquist: "But I don't want to go on the cart..."
Karl Rove: "Oh, don't be such a baby!"
R: "But I'm feeling much better..."
KR: "No you're not... in a moment you'll be stone dead!"

[Penske_Account]

"One's life is probably in no greater danger in the jungles of deepest Africa than in the jungles of America's large cities," he writes " in his memoir, "Child of the Appalachian Coalfields," released earlier this summer.

The dangerous jungles of deepest Africa......the dangerous jungles of the inner city.......Bobby Byrd, the Conscience of the Democrat Party is no racist indeed.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
"One's life is probably in no greater danger in the jungles of deepest Africa than in the jungles of America's large cities," he writes " in his memoir, "Child of the Appalachian Coalfields," released earlier this summer.

The dangerous jungles of deepest Africa......the dangerous jungles of the inner city.......Bobby Byrd, the Conscience of the Democrat Party is no racist indeed.

(a) Why doesn't my webnanny block those stupid pictures you post? No way is that work-related.

(b) Going to that resort in Congo for vacation again? Have fun!

(c) Places that the bitterest, assholiest of the bitter asshole conservatives on here live are high on the list of "most overpriced cities" -- coincidence? I think not.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
(a) Why doesn't my webnanny block those stupid pictures you post? No way is that work-related.

(b) Going to that resort in Congo for vacation again? Have fun!

(c) Places that the bitterest, assholiest of the bitter asshole conservatives on here live are high on the list of "most overpriced cities" -- coincidence? I think not.

Plus, he neglected to point out the gist of the article, namely that Kleagle Byrd strongly supports Judge Roberts. It must be Roberts's racist agenda.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
"One's life is probably in no greater danger in the jungles of deepest Africa than in the jungles of America's large cities," he writes " in his memoir, "Child of the Appalachian Coalfields," released earlier this summer.

The dangerous jungles of deepest Africa......the dangerous jungles of the inner city.......Bobby Byrd, the Conscience of the Democrat Party is no racist indeed.

He's going all Zell Miller on us!

• Mr. Byrd embraced the same judicial philosophy as the president in his memoir, "Child of the Appalachian Coalfields," released earlier this summer. In the book, he repeatedly blamed "liberal judges" and "activist judges" for many of the nation's problems.
  "One's life is probably in no greater danger in the jungles of deepest Africa than in the jungles of America's large cities," he writes. "In my judgment, much of the problem has been brought about by the mollycoddling of criminals by some of the liberal judges who have been placed on the nation's courts in recent years."

Ummm...Bobby....I know you're facing a tough reelection battle, but most of those "liberal" "activist" judges placed on the courts in recent years were put there by Republican presidents, and likely vote Republican.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
(a) Why doesn't my webnanny block those stupid pictures you post? No way is that work-related.

(b) Going to that resort in Congo for vacation again? Have fun!

(c) Places that the bitterest, assholiest of the bitter asshole conservatives on here live are high on the list of "most overpriced cities" -- coincidence? I think not.

Ty lives in San Francisco too and he is neither a bitter arse-hole nor a conservative.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Plus, he neglected to point out the gist of the article, namely that Kleagle Byrd strongly supports Judge Roberts. .

Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Ty lives in San Francisco too and he is neither a bitter arse-hole nor a conservative.

He is the person on my side (other than socks/trolls) who is the most likely to annoy me by being too extreme/disingenuous.* So I think it holds.

*IMHO, NTTAWWT, I like him as a person, etc. etc.

ETA if I did political sigs, I would use this -- "We don't know what's going to happen in the future, but no constructionist judge is going to believe that it's OK to murder babies." (Tony Newman, president of Operation Rescue)