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11-02-2005, 09:17 PM
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Hatemasters
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Originally posted by Spanky
Why do I have to make all my points in one sentence. Can't I make it in two?
When I said you were not listening, I meant to Bush in the debates.
The focus group people said Kerry was very eloquent but they don't remember what he said. They said they liked Bush's message which was - things are working, stay the course to give them time to fully work out. Most got that message.
I didn't get the message. My response would have been a lot more complicated. I heard a lot of what Kerry said and I had trouble following W. a lot. Kerry said we weren't prepared for the peace, the deficits are out of control, etc. But clearly I am not your average American. Some how I got what they missed. That is why I have to watch focus groups to understand what happened.
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So Bush blew sunshine up their asses and they liked it? This country is fucked up.
I can't watch this shit from either side. People are too disingenuous. It's not my thing. Kind of like I can't pretend that some guy I'm with is the first and only guy to bring out my freaky side, even though that would feed his ego and thereby make him like and value me more.
Maybe I could try it as an experiment, though.
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11-02-2005, 09:18 PM
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#4832
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For what it's worth
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Hatemasters
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
The tragedy is, a year later that message is looking a lot different. Bush was able to sell the point that the job could be finished, if we stayed the course. Increasing, the American people are starting to doubt that. I think the result in Nov. 2005 would have been different than in 2004 - and I think Nov. 2006 will be different too.
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Maybe. But in political time the 2006 election is a million years away. All we can say for sure is that no one really has a clue what the political climate will be like in 2006.
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11-02-2005, 09:22 PM
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#4833
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Hatemasters
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Dissent. They cannot be forgiven for their uniforms in the '70s. Had it not been for the Padres, whose entire front office apparently took some bad 'shrooms, they would have been the ugliest in MLB history.
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Let's ease up on the 70s. All can be forgiven because the music was good. The eightys is when we reached our cultural nadir. Flock of Seagulls, Boy George, Wham, Duran Duran, Motely Crue - if it weren't for U2 the whole decade would have been a loss. If Kurt Cobain had not come around, the whole rest of twentieth century might have been lost to that crap.
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11-02-2005, 09:22 PM
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#4834
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Hatemasters
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Why do I have to make all my points in one sentence. Can't I make it in two?
When I said you were not listening, I meant to Bush in the debates.
The focus group people said Kerry was very eloquent but they don't remember what he said. They said they liked Bush's message which was - things are working, stay the course to give them time to fully work out. Most got that message.
I didn't get the message. My response would have been a lot more complicated. I heard a lot of what Kerry said and I had trouble following W. a lot. Kerry said we weren't prepared for the peace, the deficits are out of control, etc. But clearly I am not your average American. Some how I got what they missed. That is why I have to watch focus groups to understand what happened.
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Here is the message people came to understand about Kerry in nutshell:
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11-02-2005, 09:24 PM
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#4835
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Hatemasters
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Kind of like I can't pretend that some guy I'm with is the first and only guy to bring out my freaky side, even though that would feed his ego and thereby make him like and value me more.
Maybe I could try it as an experiment, though.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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11-02-2005, 09:25 PM
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Kerry - with friends like these who need enemies?
Kerry went down to Nicaragua to make nice with Daniel Ortega. He said he was a guy we could work with. I know Penske is going to kill when I say this, but Kerry is the last Senator I would want as president. Yes, I said it. The worst of the 100.
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11-02-2005, 09:32 PM
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#4837
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Kerry - with friends like these who need enemies?
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Kerry went down to Nicaragua to make nice with Daniel Ortega. He said he was a guy we could work with. I know Penske is going to kill when I say this, but Kerry is the last Senator I would want as president. Yes, I said it. The worst of the 100.
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My only quibble is that at this point you know Kerry is irrelevant. He has been soundly rejected by the American electorate and he is no Nixon (i.e. no comeback is happening here).
With that in mind, you need to be worried about someone else.....
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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11-02-2005, 09:39 PM
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NCS, Fringy, Gattigap (and any other SoCal GAs):
I am almost done with the world is flat and should finish Collapse next week some time.
Everyone ready for the GA field trip to the Jareed Collapse exhibit?
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11-02-2005, 09:39 PM
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#4839
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Kerry - with friends like these who need enemies?
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
My only quibble is that at this point you know Kerry is irrelevant. He has been soundly rejected by the American electorate and he is no Nixon (i.e. no comeback is happening here).
With that in mind, you need to be worried about someone else.....
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Ps: Spank, I posted another relevant pictorial on the Adult Board related to the above.
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
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11-02-2005, 09:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
NCS, Fringy, Gattigap (and any other SoCal GAs):
I am almost done with the world is flat and should finish Collapse next week some time.
Everyone ready for the GA field trip to the Jareed Collapse exhibit?
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When?
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11-02-2005, 09:42 PM
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#4841
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For what it's worth
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Quote:
Originally posted by ltl/fb
When?
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I don't know. I will leave that to the committee. In a fortnight?
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11-02-2005, 10:05 PM
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#4842
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Another vote for Alito
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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11-02-2005, 10:28 PM
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#4843
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WacKtose Intolerant
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typical lib hypocrate
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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11-02-2005, 10:43 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Oct 2003
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United Methodist Church
It's bizarre that an avowed lesbian priest getting defrocked by the Methodist church is a news story. dallas article
Don't most people think of the United Methodist Church as fairly redneck?
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11-02-2005, 11:01 PM
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#4845
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Consigliere
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Hatemasters
Quote:
Spanky
Let's ease up on the 70s. All can be forgiven because the music was good. The eightys is when we reached our cultural nadir. Flock of Seagulls, Boy George, Wham, Duran Duran, Motely Crue - if it weren't for U2 the whole decade would have been a loss. If Kurt Cobain had not come around, the whole rest of twentieth century might have been lost to that crap.
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Dissent. REM was the band of that decade.
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