Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I am not saying that my kid can't have fun, depending on the setting, but I won't have him out showing his ass and disturbing the unsuspecting and unwilling public.

Thrashers(See, everyone complains about kids misbehaving but when I admit that I do what I must to keep mine in line I am the bad guy)Fan

It sounds like you are diligently working to prevent your kid's becoming the next Tucker Max. Kudos.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
After reading this morning's posts I am convinced that if Coltrane and his SO just get married and have kids, all their problems will be solved.


r(playing little miss judgealot today)p

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:sobbing:


Nothing frightens me more...

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Whose outbursts? Yours or the Little Fan?

spooky(just seeking context here)fish

Sorry, my own outbursts. Being at a spoting event triggers the toggle switch in my brain that, during normal business hours, keeps me from shouting "shove your stick down his throat" and "stupid blind umpires SUCK!"

Thrashers(the SO reminds me to not use colorful language when children might be around so throw some expletives in those quotes to get an idea of my state of mind when I watch sports on TV)Fan

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by c2ed
Whoa. Not only women pull this stunt. Just for the record, I'd like to add that I've actually had this line laid on me by an ex-boyfriend.

Fair enough. I'm thinking that the lawyer/non-lawyer couples are more likely to get tied up in knots over the essential recockulousness of that line than female/male or female/female couples.

But I'm also old enough to know that pointing out logical fallacies in your opponent's argument doesn't work with people whom you want to have like you when the argument is over.*

* Except Bilmore.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Thrashers(a while back we were at a sporting event and the Little Fan somehow managed to scream "kick his ass" exactly when there was a lull in the crowd noise and boy did I get some looks. . . . )Fan :cussing:

I'm thinking you should shoot back "just wait until he's had a couple of beers.":cheers:

[evenodds]

SD, if you smile at them and then look away, they'll lose interest pretty quickly . . .

but maybe it's just the hat.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I am usually unshaven, unshowered, wearing a fisherman's hat and sunglasses on weekends. I'm not the sort of person you'd think would be open to sunny conversation. Yet, amazingly, while I'm eating breakfast, so kid will start looking at me while picking his nose or start crawling over the booth toward me.

The more I read of your travails on Sat. morns, the more convinced I am that you need to pack a hip flask or a half-empty bottle of scotch to pull out and place on the table as soon as the kids get near you. That'll move the kids off (with help from the parents) mighty fast.

[Penske_Account]

Bah humbug.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by infinitytrack
I think you've taken me out of context. I just think I have become more sympathetic to how difficult it can be to "make children behave." Children do not automatically come into this world knowing appropriate behavior, and parents cannot teach it overnight. I don't automatically blame parents anymore for being awful parents when their kids are misbehaving. And I don't automatically view every child as a brat until proven otherwise, as it seems many here do. Clearly, I don't bring my kids into Le Cirque, but there are occasions where we hit the Mexican Restaurant down the street, or bring them on planes, or even into fairly nice stores (with nothing breakable at toddler height of course.) Some people are increasingly intolerant of kids though -- and surprisingly, it is the 20 to 30 somethings as often as the old folks. In fact, many older folks love seeing little kids around.

I'm not sure whether you expect them to suddenly emerge from their homes at age 18, fully formed and ready to have tea with the queen. They have to learn behavior, and the only way to do so is to get out in the world with adults.

That being said, all good parents, ourselves included, should have a low tolearnce for children that repeatedly annoy others or interfere with other people's enjoyment of a meal, flight, etc.

I think I may have overreacted to your seeming to saythat childless people are pretty uniformly advocates of thrashing children just for existing.

I will say that I think any kid under age 5 needs pretty constant, vigilant supervision in public places (that are not specifically for kids, like McDonald's play area). Even if the kid doesn't break anything, they frequently think I'm friendly (hah!) and grab at my clothes with their saliva/cheerio crumb/sticky juice covered hands. Maybe this makes me overly intolerant.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
After reading this morning's posts I am convinced that if Coltrane and his SO just get married and have kids, all their problems will be solved.

I also see a long, happy and fruitful union for Str8 and his fiancee.

r(playing little miss judgealot today)p

She's so on the same page; she always winds up sitting behind a seat-kicking brat. There are so many effective child-downers these days that it's a mystery why parents don't employ them for air-travel. That said, Infinity and others have made me consider that there is a real need for test-running kid behavior in public. Often, however, I think parents overestimate their kids' ability to handle the situations in which they are put. I.e. don't expect your four year old kid to be able to sit through Hannibal for 2 hours.

str(still shuddering about that one)8.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by evenodds
SD, if you smile at them and then look away, they'll lose interest pretty quickly . . .

but maybe it's just the hat.

Or just do what Banky (in "Chasing Amy") did in the train station...his/her parents will make sure the kid won't go near you...

[bilmore]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
It sounds like you are diligently working to prevent your kid's becoming the next Tucker Max. Kudos.

What profiteth a mom if she avoids a Tucker but gains a Dahmer?

[dtb]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
But the bars can take solace that an antismoking mother like DTB who I would guess probably does not have more than like two or maybe three cocktails at the most will start to hang out there. I was at one of the Ws recently and I was told I could not take my cocktail into the lobby to meet my friend. Since when is that a rule? I have stumbled into W lobbis with cocktails all over the country. Is this Bloomberg also?

'Tis true. If the bar industry is looking just to me to prop them up, then I'm afraid they're doomed. But, I am confident I'm not the only one who eschewed bar crawling (or didn't do it as much as one otherwise would have) because of the smoke.

I suppose there are those who now won't go to bars because of the new rules, but eventually, equilibrium will be reached again.

I don't know what the deal is with the W lobby -- I haven't heard or read anywhere that as part of the new rules. Maybe they just don't like you.

[Atticus Grinch]

Texas Court Upholds Butt Search for Crack

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
But I'm also old enough to know that pointing out logical fallacies in your opponent's argument doesn't work with people whom you want to have like you when the argument is over.*

* Except Bilmore.

I live for it.

And, someday, it will happen.