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Old 09-13-2005, 09:51 PM   #4846
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Kay Daly, President of the Coalition for a Fair Judiciary, said, “Today, while questioning Judge John Roberts, a sitting federal appeals court judge, Senator Biden tossed civility aside and embraced sarcasm and derision.”

Specter had to warn Biden three separate times to allow Roberts to answer his questions because Biden was rudely cutting him off.

Wow, the gutter behaviour of the dimwits knows no bounds. At one point he referred to Judge Roberts with a slangish "man" reference. What type of trailer trash piece of cat-shite is Biden? This is a guy who forged his lawshool transcript, plagairized as a Senator, has a chia-pet rooted to his head, regularly rubs elbows with a drunken slob who killed a young girl and then lied about it, a rapist and a Klansman.

Disgusting. Is there is any moral centre to the left wing?

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Old 09-13-2005, 10:01 PM   #4847
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I think the exclusionary rule is the product of not wanting to jail the policeman who violated the rules but still wanting a penalty to apply against law enforcement. The Founders live in an age when tarring and feathering the British constable was a noble sport. The issue wouldn't have arisen for the Founder because they would have been happy to throw both the cop and the perp in jail (which is probably the right solution). We needed the exclusionary rule because we stopped throwing cops in jail.
They don't throw cops in jail for evidentiary violations that I know of. The proper response is a civil action against the police department. But we are the only country that throws probative evidence out of court because it is "fruit of the poisonous tree".

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Originally posted by Captain I do think there is a long tradition, though, of finding that abuses of the system against a person shift burdens away from the accused - for example, following Jefferson's election, you were released if convicted under the Alien & Sedition Acts, regardless of what you may have done. But I don't know if this tradition was actually incorporated in decisions. Might be an interesting topic for research.
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Originally posted by Captain Busing, of course, couldn't be envisioned by the founders, since the founders, even in much of the North, would have assumed blacks were in slavery. However, the drafters of the civil war amendments were very fond of extreme actions against the south, and the 14th amendment explicitly bars many Southerners from public office. Reconstruction was not a pretty episode, and busing would have been a mild solution to them. I don't view busing as raising very difficult questions of intent.
Punishing the South? How about punishing every school aged kid in America. You live right next to a high school but you have to be bussed accross town to achive desegregation? I don't believe in Separate buy equal but I also don't believe in forced diversity though forced geographic relocation.

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Originally posted by Captain Roe is farther afield, and has much to do with a radical shift in sexual morays that was precipitated by the development of new technology (birth control). I wrote (but never published) a lengthy paper once on the interaction between the development of birth control and changing social mores, focused on the period around World War I (and specifically on the government's provision of condoms to soldiers in World War I). I think there was a concept of broad inherant rights in the founders, and privacy is not a bad term for these rights though also not ideal, but that abortion and birth control just were not yet part of any realistic legislative equation. So I think Roe is a question of how do you apply old rules to new situations, which is a traditional kind of common law analysis. I would have relied more heavily on the 9th amendment myself, and would have avoiding things that look like setting hard rules (e.g., cutoffs by trimester).
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Kay Daly, President of the Coalition for a Fair Judiciary, said, “Today, while questioning Judge John Roberts, a sitting federal appeals court judge, Senator Biden tossed civility aside and embraced sarcasm and derision.”

Specter had to warn Biden three separate times to allow Roberts to answer his questions because Biden was rudely cutting him off.

Wow, the gutter behaviour of the dimwits knows no bounds. At one point he referred to Judge Roberts with a slangish "man" reference. What type of trailer trash piece of cat-shite is Biden? This is a guy who forged his lawshool transcript, plagairized as a Senator, has a chia-pet rooted to his head, regularly rubs elbows with a drunken slob who killed a young girl and then lied about it, a rapist and a Klansman.

Disgusting. Is there is any moral centre to the left wing?

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I heard it on the radio. He sparred with Roberts over a few matters and argued with Specter, but IMO was not anything less than civil. This is pretty tame stuff, Penske.

If you're offended by the use of the term "man," then I can only imagine what must've happened to your virgin ears during the Coke Can heyday of nomination hearings. How evah did you survive it?
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:03 PM   #4849
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He's an ACCOUNTING professor at CAL STATE -- and not just any cal state campus, but fullerton. I can't believe you are advocating blowing up such a powerful guy.

Blowing, maybe.
I just found out he is running for the seat Chris Cox is vacating. However, he has dropped his GOP membership and is running as a libertarian. He used to be on the GOP LA central committee but now he has left the fold so I can completely ignore him.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:04 PM   #4850
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So if the right is not clearly enumerated then we don't have it?

I remember reading something that went against that.
Say if you, Ty and I all feel that Penske must have made at least one worthwhile post last week. Slave says no.

You point to the first "bus expose" post, I point to the Hillary/Gore photoshop on adult and Ty points to a wine post. The fact that we want to find it's there, but we all disagree where, makes it more likely that slave is right- see?
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:06 PM   #4851
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Mmmm, Dorothy Parker was born in New Jersey, which I think makes her American.
Wasn't a movie made about her life, and Judge Reinholds sister from Fast Times played Dorothy?
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This is kind of fun, but have some of you really posted 10,000 times?
Fringey has not made 10000 posts. fringey has made 1 post 10000 times.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:16 PM   #4853
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Well, that sucks. Where's the fantasy in that? I'm not interested in evening the playing field.

But okay, I get it. How big is the first round, do you think? I want WFB, too.
Most people have that sock on ignore. we don't need to see his posts UNLESS some newber quotes him. Please don't respond to him unless there is some very important reason to do so.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:28 PM   #4854
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I heard it on the radio. He sparred with Roberts over a few matters and argued with Specter, but IMO was not anything less than civil. This is pretty tame stuff, Penske.

If you're offended by the use of the term "man," then I can only imagine what must've happened to your virgin ears during the Coke Can heyday of nomination hearings. How evah did you survive it?
One instance of rude boorish incivility is not an excuse for others. The dimwits have no manners, no decorum. Add that to their resumes of supporting racists, murderers and rapists as leaders of their kool-aid cult, and it adds up to one big shite-stain. Do you realise this arsehole Biden works for you? Would you have a junior associate in your firm call up a client and refer to him in the slangish dialogue of the ignorant as "man"? Do you think that is appropriate dialogue in a professional setting? Come on Gatti, put the Kool-aid down and be honest.

The board has one Ty, a cheap imitation adds no value. No offence.
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Kay Daly, President of the Coalition for a Fair Judiciary, said, “Today, while questioning Judge John Roberts, a sitting federal appeals court judge, Senator Biden tossed civility aside and embraced sarcasm and derision.”

Specter had to warn Biden three separate times to allow Roberts to answer his questions because Biden was rudely cutting him off.

Wow, the gutter behaviour of the dimwits knows no bounds. At one point he referred to Judge Roberts with a slangish "man" reference. What type of trailer trash piece of cat-shite is Biden? This is a guy who forged his lawshool transcript, plagairized as a Senator, has a chia-pet rooted to his head, regularly rubs elbows with a drunken slob who killed a young girl and then lied about it, a rapist and a Klansman.

Disgusting. Is there is any moral centre to the left wing?

Hang on, hang on. It's possible Biden just stole the question from someone, isn't it? Are you blaming the right guy?
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Hang on, hang on. It's possible Biden just stole the question from someone, isn't it? Are you blaming the right guy?
You're avatar seems confusingly similar to mine.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:55 PM   #4858
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They don't throw cops in jail for evidentiary violations that I know of. The proper response is a civil action against the police department. But we are the only country that throws probative evidence out of court because it is "fruit of the poisonous tree".
You're probably familiar with Akhil Amar. If not, read up.

BTW, while in principle that's an interesting approach, you'd have to eliminate most sovereign immunity for the cops to make it have any teeth.
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Thumbs down The Palis: a People of Peace and Tolerance

Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip. American Jewish donors had bought more than 3,000 greenhouses from Israeli settlers in Gaza for $14 million last month and transferred them to the Palestinian Authority. Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, who brokered the deal, put up $500,000 of his own cash.

Palestinians set fire to at least four synagogues in evacuated Gaza Strip settlements early Monday,

Congratulations to the American left on successfully freeing these animals from their cages. First you helped make Arafat a nobel peace prize winner, now you have helped turn Gaza over to looters, defilers and terrorists. And set them up with $14M of greenhouses to loot.

Truly admirable. If only you can realise Clinton's unfinished legacy to help the Palis push the Jews of Israel into the sea. Oh what a glorious day when these same people are able to storm the Temple Mount and tear down the Wailing Wall.

Can anyone else think of a modern day nation-state that inaugurated its birth by anarchical looting and pillaging by its masses of its only sources of economic productivity and the torching and defiling of places of worship? (France excepted)





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Does the same apply to you, or are there different rules?
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