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06-01-2005, 03:57 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm not sure if your thinking this way means I should want you to be my lawyer, or not. I do know it means it is quite likely you won't maintain your license to practice for very long.
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Do law enforcement types have the same ethical duties we do? I think everyone would agree that if he had turned out to be a prosecutor and some bar association decided to disbar him for his involvement, it'd be totally proper.
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06-01-2005, 04:04 PM
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Don't touch there
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Master-Planned Reality-Based Community
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Do law enforcement types have the same ethical duties we do? I think everyone would agree that if he had turned out to be a prosecutor and some bar association decided to disbar him for his involvement, it'd be totally proper.
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I agree with this. I question the - for lack of a better word - the degree of confidentiality to be assigned to work undertaken on behalf of the Committee to Reelect the President to begin with, and the scope of the confidentiality owed by a Justice Dept. official to that committee.
Before we even get to the defense of disclosure of illegal activity.
I'll also admit I was having some fun with Hank.
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06-01-2005, 04:17 PM
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manosteel
Join Date: May 2005
Location: the left..and the right...and the center
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
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I'll also admit I was having some fun with Hank.
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get a room next time and spare us.
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06-01-2005, 05:03 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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Originally posted by chickmagnet
woodward is cia-what do you think he was doing in casey's deathbed?
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Hey, this kind of lewd post belongs on the FB. Stick to politics here, please.
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06-01-2005, 05:04 PM
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Don't touch there
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Master-Planned Reality-Based Community
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Originally posted by chickmagnet
get a room next time and spare us.
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Who are you again?
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06-01-2005, 05:08 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
- On May 10, Raja Nawaf Farhan al-Mahalawi, the newly appointed governor of Iraq's Anbar province, was kidnapped by insurgents. Five days later, according to news reports, he was freed. But today, more than two weeks after he was freed, he was "found dead along with his militant captors after a clash with U.S. forces."
Notice anything unusual in this chain of events? You do? No one in the media did. Not one report that I've seen of al-Mahalawi's death mentions that, according to the Iraqi government, he had been freed by his captors 16 days previously. I wonder why. Why was't one editor brave enough to print the following, "Raja Nawaf al-Mahalawi, the governor of Iraq's Anbar province, was killed along with his kidnappers 16 days after they had released him." After all, if you're going to print statements of U.S. and Iraqi officials as legitimate news--that is, if you're going to print absurdities--why try to hide them?
An examination of what else was happening in Iraq on May 15 explains the mystery. That was the day of Condoleezza Rice's surprise one-day visit. Evidently, it was too embarrassing for Iraq's putative leaders to have to meet with their boss while the governor of Iraq's largest province was being held by the insurgents. So they "freed" him. Simple as that. Reality? It's no longer a limitation.
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Now, about all those new schools . . . .
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06-01-2005, 05:15 PM
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Hey, this kind of lewd post belongs on the FB. Stick to politics here, please.
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I'm dying?
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06-01-2005, 05:40 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop - On May 10, Raja Nawaf Farhan al-Mahalawi, the newly appointed governor of Iraq's Anbar province, was kidnapped by insurgents. Five days later, according to news reports, he was freed. But today, more than two weeks after he was freed, he was "found dead along with his militant captors after a clash with U.S. forces."
Notice anything unusual in this chain of events? You do? No one in the media did. Not one report that I've seen of al-Mahalawi's death mentions that, according to the Iraqi government, he had been freed by his captors 16 days previously. I wonder why. Why was't one editor brave enough to print the following, "Raja Nawaf al-Mahalawi, the governor of Iraq's Anbar province, was killed along with his kidnappers 16 days after they had released him." After all, if you're going to print statements of U.S. and Iraqi officials as legitimate news--that is, if you're going to print absurdities--why try to hide them?
An examination of what else was happening in Iraq on May 15 explains the mystery. That was the day of Condoleezza Rice's surprise one-day visit. Evidently, it was too embarrassing for Iraq's putative leaders to have to meet with their boss while the governor of Iraq's largest province was being held by the insurgents. So they "freed" him. Simple as that. Reality? It's no longer a limitation.
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Now, about all those new schools . . . .
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So they concoct an easily disproved story about some guy I've never even given a thought to so they can have a good news story when Rice is in Iraq? Do you even think about how absurd your conspiracy theories get? In your professional life are you this uncaring about your credibiltiy?
Isn't the continuing installation of a government elected by the people a bit better story- I mean that partt is true right?
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06-01-2005, 05:55 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Who are you again?
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You mean the poster with the sexist fuck moniker?
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06-01-2005, 06:12 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
So they concoct an easily disproved story about some guy I've never even given a thought to so they can have a good news story when Rice is in Iraq?
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It wasn't that easily disproved -- it took a tank and a bunch of troops to shoot up the house where it turned out the guy was being held, although they didn't know that at the time.
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Do you even think about how absurd your conspiracy theories get?
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How absurd is it to suggest that the Iraqi government made shit up and released it to the media, knowing that journalists aren't exactly combing the streets of the country to do investigative journalism? It's dangerous enough by the hotel pool. Not a gig I would want.
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In your professional life are you this uncaring about your credibiltiy?
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In the professional context, if I'm going to say that two published accounts contradict each other, I'll want to see them first. Here, I'm willing to see only one of them, and a blog refering to the other story. If you want to pay me my hourly rate to research my posts here, I'd be happy to do more research. But I can't even get you to pay for Preferred Subscriber status on my blog, with all of the free pictures of "Japanese manhole covers" (IYKWIM) that would come with.
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Isn't the continuing installation of a government elected by the people a bit better story- I mean that part is true right?
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Have they not moved into their offices yet? Is there a safety problem, or are they just waiting for the interior designers to finish?
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06-01-2005, 06:26 PM
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Don't touch there
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You mean the poster with the sexist fuck moniker?
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I've forgotten already. Clearly not important.
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06-01-2005, 06:30 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Have they not moved into their offices yet? Is there a safety problem, or are they just waiting for the interior designers to finish?
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They were going to decorate with antiquities from the Baghdad museum but they all got stolen ![Frown](http://www.lawtalkers.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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06-01-2005, 06:39 PM
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
I lived in Japan for almost three years and I don't remember noticing any manhole covers. I guess I need to smell the roses more.
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06-01-2005, 06:42 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
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Originally posted by Spanky
I lived in Japan for almost three years and I don't remember noticing any manhole covers. I guess I need to smell the roses more.
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I remember them, and look with renewed fondness on Ty for his thoughtful post.
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I will not suffer a fool- but I do seem to read a lot of their posts
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06-01-2005, 06:42 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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Don't worry though -- soon there'll be more good news from Iraq.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
They were going to decorate with antiquities from the Baghdad museum but they all got stolen
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Incidentally, here are your freeper pals passing along the story that the governor had been freed:
- Gunmen freed the kidnapped governor of Iraq’s western Anbar province today after US troops ended a week-long offensive in the region, relatives and a government official said. “He was released and he is currently in the (village) of Obeidi,” Governor Raja Nawaf Farhan al-Mahalawi’s cousin, Safi Jalal, said. “People celebrated by firing shots in the air.” Al-Mahalawi was seized on Tuesday as he drove from the Syrian border town of Qaim to the provincial capital of Ramadi. The governor’s kidnappers told the family he would be released when US troops withdrew from Qaim. They also offered to exchange the governor for three followers of Iraq’s most wanted terrorists, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who they said were seized in the US offensive, according to the family. Ahmed Hadi, an official at Iraq’s Ministry of Provincial Affairs, confirmed al-Mahalawi was released in the early hours of this morning, but declined to provide any details of how this happened. The governor’s cousin said he was released without conditions. The US military declared its week-long offensive over yesterday, saying it had cleared an insurgent haven near the Syrian border and killed about 125 militants.
See also Reuters.
Today, Reuters reported:
- The governor of Iraq's biggest province, who was kidnapped earlier this month, has been found dead along with his militant captors after a clash with U.S. forces, a government spokesman said on Tuesday.
Laith Kubba told a news conference the body of Anbar governor Raja Nawaf was found tied to a gas canister in a house near the town of Rawa two days ago.
He was discovered after U.S. forces conducted a routine sweep through a neighborhood and met fierce resistance from insurgents in the house.
The authorities do not know how Nawaf died but it was likely that concrete fell on him after the clashes triggered explosives in the house, Kubba said.
Funny, that.
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