Making Baby Jesus Cry

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Captain
On sovereign immunity, other than the limited sovereign immunity that is set out in the 11th amendment, where do you view sovereignty, and any powers relating to it, as arising? Sovereign immunity is not mentioned in the constitution itself. And what powers might be included in this concept of "Sovereignty".

You complained yesterday about the vagueness of the 9th amendment rights reserved to the people. Does the vagueness of some extra-constitutional powers (labeled "Sovereign powers") being reserved to the government bother you? I'm not sure where you came down on the right to privacy, but I find it much easier to understand a concept of a right to privacy from a quick skim through the Federalist Papers than I do the concept of "sovereign powers" beyond those enumerated in the constitution.

Did I read the paper correctly this morning? Did Roberts really find a right to privacy in the Constitution, or did he merely say he would not undo precedent finding that right?

The fucking media sucks; they totally misinterpret and misreport everything said.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I accept responsibilitity for everything that the entire left has done through 8:24 p.m., PST, on September 13, 2005. Through then, no more bellyaching from you conservatives -- it's all my responsibility. After that, they're on their own again.

Merde! There it is then. Should I assume that this is an early birthday present? Any wine to go along with it?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Penske:

Your boy is off message again.

IMpressive that you are so lacking in objectivity that you can not give him requisite credit when he does the very thing that for 5 years you have criticised him for not doing. Thanks for exposing the hypocrasy of the left. Again.

So, Ty, the record of leftist transgression starts anew, so quickly on the heels of the cleansing of the decades of earlier sin, or do you want to take responsibility for this BS?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Or, just copy the link and use the "IMG" button to insert it.

Thanks for the advice, but the picture was sent to me by e-mail. So, I have the picture saved, but no link to it, I think?

Forgive me, but I can barely use Paypal.

S_A_M

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If you worked in IP, you would know to never make this particular statement until you had a firm understanding of priority.

If you were Old Skool, you would know to never make this particular statement until you had a firm understanding of priority.

Or have you never heard of the OBE sock known as nwn_deleted_me_2? The first jesus-like martyr sock on the GA boards.

[Southern Patriot]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I accept responsibilitity for everything that the entire left has done through 8:24 p.m., PST, on September 13, 2005. Through then, no more bellyaching from you conservatives -- it's all my responsibility. After that, they're on their own again.

I trust this includes responsibility for the War of Northern Aggression.

Where should I send my reparations claim?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I agree that they lowered the bar. And for no real reason, Bush should have been able to win hands down without the bullshit they pulled. Although, unlike Carville and Begala, at least Atwater had the decency to apologise.

A deathbed conversion, and we have yet to see the latter gentlemen on their deathbeds.

S_A_M

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
If you were Old Skool, you would know to never make this particular statement until you had a firm understanding of priority.

Or have you never heard of the OBE sock known as nwn_deleted_me_2? The first jesus-like martyr sock on the GA boards.

Ummm, sped. Trademark rights don't cross boundaries. Juan the Marine was the first martyr here to die for all our sins.

Originally posted by nononono
Put another way: "Wow, can you believe an elected official actually having the balls and the character to admit there were failures on his watch and accepting responsibility for them?" Despite the editorializing in the story itself, what comes through loud and clear is the President is the only one stepping up.

What exactly is he "stepping up" to? If he is truly responsible for the failure of his administration to adequately respond to this disaster, he should be stepping down. Or perhaps I have been unclear on the definition of the word "responsibility" as used by neocons all these years. Is there some definition of responsibility that does not involve consequences for actions?

[nononono]

Originally posted by ironweed
What exactly is he "stepping up" to? If he is truly responsible for the failure of his administration to adequately respond to this disaster, he should be stepping down. Or perhaps I have been unclear on the definition of the word "responsibility" as used by neocons all these years. Is there some definition of responsibility that does not involve consequences for actions?

1. Feds aren't responsible for all the failures in this disaster.
2. Taking responsibility doesn't always mean falling on your sword. Sometimes leaders take responsibility by acknowledging problems and then fixing them (cf., carping about them and laying blame elsewhere ad nauseum a la Blanco).
3. Speaking of Blanco or Nagin, I have been looking for but have so far been unable to find similar statements.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ironweed
What exactly is he "stepping up" to? If he is truly responsible for the failure of his administration to adequately respond to this disaster, he should be stepping down. Or perhaps I have been unclear on the definition of the word "responsibility" as used by neocons all these years. Is there some definition of responsibility that does not involve consequences for actions?

Say if the beer was warm at the UK pavillion, would you mostly blame the manager there, or would expect Eisner to step down?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ironweed
What exactly is he "stepping up" to? If he is truly responsible for the failure of his administration to adequately respond to this disaster, he should be stepping down. Or perhaps I have been unclear on the definition of the word "responsibility" as used by neocons all these years. Is there some definition of responsibility that does not involve consequences for actions?

Yes, look up the "Bill Clinton" sub-definition in the dictionary. See also the cross reference to the sex induced exception to perjury.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
A deathbed conversion, and we have yet to see the latter gentlemen on their deathbeds.

S_A_M

Damn shame, indeed, but hope springs eternal.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ummm, sped. Trademark rights don't cross boundaries. Juan the Marine was the first martyr here to die for all our sins.

I miss juan [sniff].

Originally posted by nononono
1. Feds aren't responsible for all the failures in this disaster.
2. Taking responsibility doesn't always mean falling on your sword. Sometimes leaders take responsibility by acknowledging problems and then fixing them (cf., carping about them and laying blame elsewhere ad nauseum a la Blanco).
3. Speaking of Blanco or Nagin, I have been looking for but have so far been unable to find similar statements.

So Bush is responsible but it's the Dems fault. So simple and elegant. Is it your view that Blanco or Nagin mouthing the words "I take responsibility" would improve anything about the facts of this disaster?

As for the "fixing" bit, when can we expect the Republican babyjesus to start resurrecting those who died waiting for federal assistance to arrive? Sometimes "sorry" just isn't good enough.