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[Hank Chinaski]

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...ired20-ON.html

• Cop fired after asking for date
  
  A Chandler police officer has been fired after he pulled over a woman under the guise of a traffic stop but instead asked her out on a date.
  
  Following an internal investigation, Officer Nathan Dixon, 37, was dismissed in late August - the second Chandler officer to be fired this year.
  
  The woman called the Professional Standards Section of the Chandler Police Department on July 12 and told them she was pulled over on July 8 at 2:15 a.m. by an officer in a marked patrol car who asked her out on a date, according to a dismissal letter to Dixon from Chandler police Chief Sherry Kiyler.
  
  
  Police confirmed the incident when the woman also presented a note Dixon allegedly wrote with his phone number on it, said Sgt. Rick Griner, a Chandler police spokesman.

I have thought how it must be tough your first few months as a cop because eveyone seems suspious too me- I would be pulling everyone over at first, but I hadn't even thought of the "ask out/pullover". FWIW, I would have sufficient composure to not write the note.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...ired20-ON.html

• Cop fired after asking for date
  
  A Chandler police officer has been fired after he pulled over a woman under the guise of a traffic stop but instead asked her out on a date.
  
  Following an internal investigation, Officer Nathan Dixon, 37, was dismissed in late August - the second Chandler officer to be fired this year.
  
  The woman called the Professional Standards Section of the Chandler Police Department on July 12 and told them she was pulled over on July 8 at 2:15 a.m. by an officer in a marked patrol car who asked her out on a date, according to a dismissal letter to Dixon from Chandler police Chief Sherry Kiyler.
  
  
  Police confirmed the incident when the woman also presented a note Dixon allegedly wrote with his phone number on it, said Sgt. Rick Griner, a Chandler police spokesman.

I have thought how it must be tough your first few months as a cop because eveyone seems suspious too me- I would be pulling everyone over at first, but I hadn't even thought of the "ask out/pullover". FWIW, I would have sufficient composure to not write the note.

Nathan Dixon? His parents must not have said his name out loud before putting it down on the birth certificate.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
As an aside, I live 3 blocks away from where Biggie was murdered. In a SUV.

You should get an apartment.

TM

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You should get an apartment.

TM

So early in the day and I have no hope of winning BOTD. Thanks a lot, TM.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What's a German spectacle?

Offering me more than 15* schnitzengruben.

TM

*My limit.

[Hank Chinaski]

I took off about the last 15 from caring about baseball. here' s the biggest change I've noticed now that I'm back: complete games are not important at all- in fact it seems like you're not allowed to get them. I understand with really young pitchers, but the other night Kenny Rogers was cruising through 7, with a big lead and got pulled because his pitch count was high. in the early 90s he'd have completed the game (hopefully).

Was this just a reaction to some study of stats and how often a starter falters in the last 2 innings, or after 110 pitches or something compared to how often a closer fucks up? the Tigers closers have screwed up a couple in the last few weeks when the starter had seemed fine when yanked. Of course with the change you never see when the starter blows it in the 9th.

Anyway, complete games WAS the stud statistic for pitchers.

Another thing, and I know there is no answer for this, but anyway....is there any explaination for a team that never gets runs for one starter compared to the team's other starters- like a guy who pitches slowly cools his own hitters off or some odd thing?

We have a guy who is 13-12 with an ERA of 3.6. He has lost several 2-0, 2-1, 3-2 games, and he should be like 20-5 or so.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
We have a guy who is 13-12 with an ERA of 3.6. He has lost several 2-0, 2-1, 3-2 games, and he should be like 20-5 or so.

Last year with the Stros, Roger Clemens had a 13-8 record with a 1.87 ERA.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I took off about the last 15 from caring about baseball. here' s the biggest change I've noticed now that I'm back: complete games are not important at all- in fact it seems like you're not allowed to get them. I understand with really young pitchers, but the other night Kenny Rogers was cruising through 7, with a big lead and got pulled because his pitch count was high. in the early 90s he'd have completed the game (hopefully).

Was this just a reaction to some study of stats and how often a starter falters in the last 2 innings, or after 110 pitches or something compared to how often a closer fucks up? the Tigers closers have screwed up a couple in the last few weeks when the starter had seemed fine when yanked. Of course with the change you never see when the starter blows it in the 9th.

Anyway, complete games WAS the stud statistic for pitchers.

The game has changed. Pitchers and their agents believe (and probably not without reason) that their careers will be extended if they don't go too far over 100 pitches in any given start. Middle relief is now a career position for many pitchers and teams pour money into their bullpens, recognizing their importance. Closers make big money and managers have figured out that they can avoid criticism if they have a system that calls for bringing in a closer for every save situation. Unless you have a no-hitter going or a shut out with a low pitch count (and probably a four run lead with no one on), you're not going to finish the game.

I think LaRussa's pure statistical approach and Torre's Mariano-Wetteland ideal that everyone is reaching for are the major contributors to the change.

Plus, Kenny Rogers fucking sucks. You'll see come playoffs, when the games mean something.

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Another thing, and I know there is no answer for this, but anyway....is there any explaination for a team that never gets runs for one starter compared to the team's other starters- like a guy who pitches slowly cools his own hitters off or some odd thing?

We have a guy who is 13-12 with an ERA of 3.6. He has lost several 2-0, 2-1, 3-2 games, and he should be like 20-5 or so.

Tell it to Clemens.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You'll see come playoffs,

After the last month, that is really all I'm hoping for (that is, that they make it)

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I took off about the last 15 from caring about baseball. here' s the biggest change I've noticed now that I'm back: complete games are not important at all- in fact it seems like you're not allowed to get them. I understand with really young pitchers, but the other night Kenny Rogers was cruising through 7, with a big lead and got pulled because his pitch count was high. in the early 90s he'd have completed the game (hopefully).

Was this just a reaction to some study of stats and how often a starter falters in the last 2 innings, or after 110 pitches or something compared to how often a closer fucks up? the Tigers closers have screwed up a couple in the last few weeks when the starter had seemed fine when yanked. Of course with the change you never see when the starter blows it in the 9th.

Anyway, complete games WAS the stud statistic for pitchers.

Another thing, and I know there is no answer for this, but anyway....is there any explaination for a team that never gets runs for one starter compared to the team's other starters- like a guy who pitches slowly cools his own hitters off or some odd thing?

We have a guy who is 13-12 with an ERA of 3.6. He has lost several 2-0, 2-1, 3-2 games, and he should be like 20-5 or so.

Just wait. Pretty soon, I predict you will see starter by committee, sort of like in LL. Pitcher 1 goes through the batting order once, pitcher 2 goes through the second time, then you have 3 or 4 guys each going an inning. Hitters never have a chance to adjust and the pitchers never get tired.

As far as getting runs for a particular pitcher, if that guy is the third or fourth in the rotation on a team that is very deep in pitching, he is usually going against someone who is also third or fourth in the rotation on the other team. So let's say for example the Mets, go Pedro, Glavine, Duque, Traschel. Traschel, now the 4th starter when matched up against the Brewers -- a team far less deep than the Mets -- goes against some guy who probably is a AA pitcher. The Mets pound the shit out of him and Traschel gets 55 runs a game run support.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
After the last month, that is really all I'm hoping for (that is, that they make it)

You'll make the playoffs. Chicago has completely fallen apart. I think it will be the wildcard for Detroit, but I guess that's why you need to win all those games early in the season. And anything can happen in the playoffs (although, as I've learned from watching the Yankees blow it in the post season, the hottest team at the end of the season is the team most likely to go the deepest).

TM

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
As far as getting runs for a particular pitcher, if that guy is the third or fourth in the rotation on a team that is very deep in pitching, he is usually going against someone who is also third or fourth in the rotation on the other team. So let's say for example the Mets, go Pedro, Glavine, Duque, Traschel. Traschel, now the 4th starter when matched up against the Brewers -- a team far less deep than the Mets -- goes against some guy who probably is a AA pitcher. The Mets pound the shit out of him and Traschel gets 55 runs a game run support.

I thought teams simply tried to maximize the starts for their number 1 (the 1 pitches every fifth day, regardless if 5, 4, or 3 games are played in that 5 day span). If there are a lot of rainouts, it's possible to have your 4 and 5 not pitch for a couple weeks.

But what you're suggesting is that teams make an effort to match their 1 with the other team's 1. Is this true?

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You'll make the playoffs. Chicago has completely fallen apart. I think it will be the wildcard for Detroit, but I guess that's why you need to win all those games early in the season. And anything can happen in the playoffs (although, as I've learned from watching the Yankees blow it in the post season, the hottest team at the end of the season is the team most likely to go the deepest).

TM

And the deepest team (pitching) is most likely to be the hottest.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
The game has changed.

The strike zone has changed too. With the smaller strike zone, batters work the count a lot more, so more pitches, so fewer innings. Worse, an increase in runs and base runners (hitter-friendly parks) also increases pitches. So pitchers are likely to run out of steam earlier in the game. They can't just throw the ball over and let 'em hit it any more.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
But Ford is eliminating the Town Car.

Ford eliminated the Town Car years ago when they turned it into an alternatively branded Crown Vic.